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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rolfw" data-source="post: 259104" data-attributes="member: 175057">Well you need one with a card reader which I think excludes the first one.Both the Clark and Technomate are good receivers, but can't comment on the ebay sellers, have you looked at our advertisers at the top of the forum page? Have a look at mantesat.com in the banners, they do complete systems including the ART card, plus you know that if there is any problem, you have some comeback.<img src="https://www.satellites.co.uk/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>