Advice Needed Multistream from 5W

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Can anyone explain what is the difference between Root code and Gold code?
It seems that they have same effect on the received signal. If I have the code I can lock the signal.
Every professional receivers accept only one code and it is the Gold one, no way using the Root code.
Instead, the consumer boxes accept both codes.
I never understood the differences. Thanks.
 

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5.0W_12731 V,29500,8/9,8PSK is also locked with Root code PLS 175803 for all MIS.
 

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Can anyone explain what is the difference between Root code and Gold code?
Hi,
basically the root and the gold codes are the same: every channel work with both codes, it's only a matter of what kind of code your STB will accept.
In this page you can find more info and even a root/gold converter!

Ciao,
 

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I tried these but there is no signal. Some info is missing for mine:

What does the Multi 4,5,6 activated(new) mean in :

12605 V,35300,2/3,8PSK with Multi 4,5,6 activated(new). PLS code 16416

Also, what do I put in Roll-off, Pilot, InputStream, and fot T2MI PLP? Also a PLS code on my receiver is a 6 figure number, yet you have given a 5 figure number.
 
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I tried these but there is no signal. Some info is missing for mine:

What does the Multi 4,5,6 activated(new) mean in :

12605 V,35300,2/3,8PSK with Multi 4,5,6 activated(new). PLS code 16416

Also, what do I put in Roll-off, Pilot, InputStream, and fot T2MI PLP? Also a PLS code on my receiver is a 6 figure number, yet you have given a 5 figure number.
Solved: I used the converter to change Root 16416 to Gold 131070, and got a signal lock and lots of Italian channels.
 

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I tried these but there is no signal. Some info is missing for mine:

What does the Multi 4,5,6 activated(new) mean in :

12605 V,35300,2/3,8PSK with Multi 4,5,6 activated(new). PLS code 16416

Also, what do I put in Roll-off, Pilot, InputStream, and fot T2MI PLP? Also a PLS code on my receiver is a 6 figure number, yet you have given a 5 figure number.

Advanced users do three manual searches with
InputStream 4
InputStream 5
InputStream 6

PLS code 16416 is = 016416

T2MI is OFF (for multistream)
 

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Advanced users do three manual searches with
InputStream 4
InputStream 5
InputStream 6

PLS code 16416 is = 016416

T2MI is OFF (for multistream)
Thank-you Mr Advanced.
Now I know for next time.
 

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Wow over 300 channels. Rai Movies showing a film with Sophia Loren front 1963 ! She's still alive btw at 89
 

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Rai Movies is great.

Execpt for the endless re-runs of Laural and Hardy!
 

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Rai Movies is great.

Execpt for the endless re-runs of Laural and Hardy!
Really what every day, dubbed in Italian I guess ? Not female btw are you ?!
 

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Really what every day, dubbed in Italian I guess ? Not female btw are you ?!
Yes, dubbed. They are called Ollio e Stanlio.

Ofc. Does my dislike of Laural and Hardy give it away :-)
 
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Yes, dubbed. They are called Ollio e Stanlio.

Ofc. Does my dislike of Laural and Hardy give it away :-)
Ah great. Interesting dish setup you have I read. What sat receivers are you using ?
 

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Ah great. Interesting dish setup you have I read. What sat receivers are you using ?
Hi,
I have an edision os mio+ 4k, and a an old Silvercrest SL65 ( dvb-s). The latter is boxed up.

Some history:
I went though two Echostar 3000 ( or a 3600), but these started crashing on some DVB-S channels because it did not know how how to handle some values sent from the TPs. It was a good box because Icould get SECAM from 5W in colour, and RTBF intl plus UK channels in digital. But one box blew up and the other got lost during house moves. Before this I had an analog Sky box from when they broadcast from 19.2, but this box was buried in landfill and has likely decomposed by now. :-)
 
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Hi,
I have an edision os mio+ 4k, and a an old Silvercrest SL65 ( dvb-s). The latter is boxed up.

Some history:
I went though two Echostar 3000 ( or a 3600), but these started crashing on some DVB-S channels because it did not know how how to handle some values sent from the TPs. It was a good box because Icould get SECAM from 5W in colour, and RTBF intl plus UK channels in digital. But one box blew up and the other got lost during house moves. Before this I had an analog Sky box from when they broadcast from 19.2, but this box was buried in landfill and has likely decomposed by now. :-)
Aha thanks for the info, I've quite a few sat receivers as my profile shows incl some which do multistream
 

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7:10 p.m. today, disappearance of Italian channels MIS at 5W...on Octagon 8008 and TBS 5520 SE
French channels all OK
Just me ???
 

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just cheked no problems with 5W , must at your side
 

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7:10 p.m. today, disappearance of Italian channels MIS at 5W...on Octagon 8008 and TBS 5520 SE
French channels all OK
Just me ???
It seems that only for you did the MIS Italians disappear at 5.0W.
I did a test at this position and found that, apart from 11179 V, all Italian transponders are active.
 

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@pipino, thank you, try 11179 V 35300 please
@satesco, thank you, you found the problem: 11179 V is indeed inactive, I hadn't checked the other TPs!!!
Let's hope that the TP "breakdown" that interests me the most will be quickly repaired.
 

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@satesco, thank you, you found the problem: 11179 V is indeed inactive, I hadn't checked the other TPs!!!
Let's hope that the TP "breakdown" that interests me the most will be quickly repaired.
After almost a month of side by side broadcasting 11179V is now turned OFF but the new frequency active is 12605 V (with the same parameters).
Stream: 4, 5 and 6

Bye,
 

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Ciao cirio 70, e grazie.
Thank you cirio 70, valuable information, which completely escaped me.
It will definitely benefit other users.
VIVA Sanremo...:cool:
 
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