12437 , Thor 7

[Mickha]

I've given you a few more things to try on the VU+ forum.
Try removing the second tuner card, it's just plug & play, like in a PC, then try manually scanning in the signal.
If that fails replace the first tuner, with the second, and try again.
If that fails try both tuners, in the second slot.
You can also try and download a channel list, which already contains those frequencies.
If that fails then take your Duo 2 to a local shop and ask them to test it, or try your receiver on someone else's dish.
Seeing a you've re-flashed the receiver, with the latest image, and tried scanning before loading anyhting else, I doubt the problem is with the satellites.xml file, or any plugins, addons, you've loaded.
Why have you got 4 tuners if only one is connected?
How have you got your tuners configured?

I know, from my experience, with teh VU+ Duo 2, that there's no problem, with that frequency, in the UK, as I've stated I scanned in 8 channels.
If you could try the receiver on another dish, at a friends/relatives, to see if it scans in those channels, it would help narrow the problem down.

Do you have access to any other satellites? So that you can try similar frequencies, or as close as possible, on them?
19.2E has 12441 V 29700 DVB-S2 QPSK 5/6 and 13E has a 12437 H 29900 DVB-S2 QPSK 3/4

 

[samoloko]

such tuning problems forced me to return Vu Ultimo and upgrade to most expensive but first class DM7020HD
that was early 2012 from what I see now things are not very different

 

[Mickha]

That's rubbish, as I've already stated, my VU+ Duo 2, and everyone else's works fine on that frequency.
Either you bought a clone receiver, or you had other problems.
The fact that you state the DM7020HD was more expensive, states a lot, as DM always overprice their receivers.
The most expensive Dreambox now is the 8000HD.
The 7020HD can now be bought for around €220, whereas a genuine VU+ Ultimo is more expensive, and quite an old receiver.
If you were used to Dreamboxes, before buying the VU+ Ultimo, then that could also explain why you didn't like it, as they work slightly differently.

 

[samoloko]

did I mention CLONE
If you like, search what was situation jan 2012, you can google about ultimo tuning problems,
do you think you are the only one with du2 tuning problems

 

[Mickha]

No, but most of the problems are with the Indian market, and one provider, in particular. This seems to have been resolved, with the newer versions.
As I stated the Dreamboxes have alway been over-priced, and even DM fans have admitted that.
If you want to stick with Dreamboxes, then that's your choice, but please don't dismiss the VU+ range just because you started with the early model, and probably haven't even tried a VU+ Duo 2, Solo 2, or any of the newer models.
The VU+ is different to Dreamboxes.
You haven't offered any input, to help daaihe02, with his problem, just your own opinions of the VU+ receiver, even though you're trying to compare an early Ultimo, to a VU+ duo 2.
Those of us that actually own VU+ Duo 2's know that there isn't a problem with 12437 H 30000 DVB-S2 8PSK 2/3, on Thor, but we do know that the receiver is subject to DECT telephone interference, on some frequencies, as are many receivers.
If you wish to denegrate the VU+ Ultimo please start your own thread and list the problems you experienced, but please don't just post in someone else's thread with outdated, irrelevant, posts just because you had a bad experience, 4 years ago, with a different model, and probably on different satellites.
Please do post if you have any information, that can help daaihe02, resolve his problem.

 

[samoloko]

Today i borrowed Dreambox 500HD from a friend , i test it at my home , it could find all channels on 12437 with very strong signal. That means that there is no problem with dish, LNB , cable . It also exclude DECT - interference. what i can not understand is that i have 4 sat tuner on my vu+duo2 , since i bought it for 2 years ago , i only used only one tuner ( tuner A) , i never used the other 3 tuners, but when i tested the other 3 tuner , it was same problem ( no signal on 12437. I also tested with a ready to use channel list, but no signal on channels that on 12437.

The VU+ is different to Dreamboxes.

 

[daaihe02]

No, but most of the problems are with the Indian market, and one provider, in particular. This seems to have been resolved, with the newer versions.
As I stated the Dreamboxes have alway been over-priced, and even DM fans have admitted that.
If you want to stick with Dreamboxes, then that's your choice, but please don't dismiss the VU+ range just because you started with the early model, and probably haven't even tried a VU+ Duo 2, Solo 2, or any of the newer models.
The VU+ is different to Dreamboxes.
You haven't offered any input, to help daaihe02, with his problem, just your own opinions of the VU+ receiver, even though you're trying to compare an early Ultimo, to a VU+ duo 2.
Those of us that actually own VU+ Duo 2's know that there isn't a problem with 12437 H 30000 DVB-S2 8PSK 2/3, on Thor, but we do know that the receiver is subject to DECT telephone interference, on some frequencies, as are many receivers.
If you wish to denegrate the VU+ Ultimo please start your own thread and list the problems you experienced, but please don't just post in someone else's thread with outdated, irrelevant, posts just because you had a bad experience, 4 years ago, with a different model, and probably on different satellites.
Please do post if you have any information, that can help daaihe02, resolve his problem.

Thank you for your reply. Today i was sorting out my store. I found out that i have openbox SF satfinder. I connect the LNB cable to the satfinder a made manual search for 12437 on thor 7 , signal rate and quality was very high , the satfinder could find all channels on the transponder. Now both vuplus zero and satfinder could lock the frequency with my equipment ( sat dish , inverto black ultra and cable ). none of my friends have sat dish pointed to 0.8 west. one of my friends is aimed to buy sat dish next summer.

 

[Ghostleader]

What version of the Black Ultra is it? They can be problematic with certain receivers.My Xtrend did not like the Ultra twin output I had, picture break up and jumping signal levels.

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[daaihe02]

What version of the Black Ultra is it? They can be problematic with certain receivers.My Xtrend did not like the Ultra twin output I had, picture break up and jumping signal levels.

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Thank you for your reply. it is single inverto black ultra LNB.

 

[Mickha]

Are you able to test it on the other satellites, and frequencies, I posted earlier in the thread?
Do you have access to any other satellites? So that you can try similar frequencies, or as close as possible, on them?
19.2E has 12441 V 29700 DVB-S2 QPSK 5/6 and 13E has a 12437 H 29900 DVB-S2 QPSK 3/4

Have you tried connecting your LNB to the second tuner card, in the VU+ Duo 2?
If you do set Tuner A, and Tuner B, to Not Configured.
Set Tuner C to Simple. Single Thor 0.8W, and try a manual scan of the frequency.

 

[Ghostleader]

Thank you for your reply. it is single inverto black ultra LNB.

It would really good if you could get a loan of another brand LNB to see if the problem persists, at least to rule this out mate.

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[Ghostleader]

Any would do.

 

[daaihe02]

Are you able to test it on the other satellites, and frequencies, I posted earlier in the thread?
Do you have access to any other satellites? So that you can try similar frequencies, or as close as possible, on them?
19.2E has 12441 V 29700 DVB-S2 QPSK 5/6 and 13E has a 12437 H 29900 DVB-S2 QPSK 3/4

Have you tried connecting your LNB to the second tuner card, in the VU+ Duo 2?
If you do set Tuner A, and Tuner B, to Not Configured.
Set Tuner C to Simple. Single Thor 0.8W, and try a manual scan of the frequency.

Thank you for your reply. I tested 19.2E has 12441 V 29700 DVB-S2 QPSK 5/6 and 13E has a 12437 H 29900 DVB-S2 QPSK 3/4 , very good signals . I have tested other tuners , the same problem. I have found out that the problem is only with some frequencies on 0.8 w , could it be because very high singnals from this transponders ?

 

[Mickha]

The only problem, that I've experienced, with some high frequencies, and my VU+ Duo 2, is because of my V-Box II, which I use to drive my 36v motor.
When the cable goes through the V-Box II, I noticed I was getting very poor signal quality levels on some of the Disney channels, on 19.2E, when I connected the cable, directly to my VU+ Duo 2, I noticed the signal levels went back up to 99%.
Since I have a twin LNB, on my motorized dish, I set Tuner B, which has the cable straight from the LNB, to the receiver, to preferred tuner, I haven't experienced any problems, with scanning in, or viewing the Disney channels.

When trying to diagnose a problem, it's always best to take everything else, out of the equation, so connect a cable directly, from the LNB, to the receiver, and remove anything else, like the motor, Diseqc switches, or in my case the V-Box II.

 

[Captain Jack]

IBU lnbs are well known for overloading some receivers on very strong signals, especially with short cable runs. Definitely try another lnb.

 

[daaihe02]

The only problem, that I've experienced, with some high frequencies, and my VU+ Duo 2, is because of my V-Box II, which I use to drive my 36v motor.
When the cable goes through the V-Box II, I noticed I was getting very poor signal quality levels on some of the Disney channels, on 19.2E, when I connected the cable, directly to my VU+ Duo 2, I noticed the signal levels went back up to 99%.
Since I have a twin LNB, on my motorized dish, I set Tuner B, which has the cable straight from the LNB, to the receiver, to preferred tuner, I haven't experienced any problems, with scanning in, or viewing the Disney channels.

When trying to diagnose a problem, it's always best to take everything else, out of the equation, so connect a cable directly, from the LNB, to the receiver, and remove anything else, like the motor, Diseqc switches, or in my case the V-Box II.

Thank you for your reply. I have SuperJack Actuators and Superjack EZ-2000 Positioner. The LNB cable is not connected to superjack positioner. The LNB cable in my case is aways directly connected to the receiver. I do not use Diseq.

 

[wod]

IBU lnbs are well known for overloading some receivers on very strong signals, especially with short cable runs. Definitely try another lnb.

Strange you should mention this, I've been trying to solve an issue I have and wonder if it is this I'm experiencing.

 

[daaihe02]

Where in Northern Sweden. I live in Umeå . I get 9.0dB on MBC channels on Badr 7 with motorized 1.2 m Echo star dish , Inverto black ultra and Vu+duo2.

 

[AndyX]

The only problem, that I've experienced, with some high frequencies, and my VU+ Duo 2, is because of my V-Box II, which I use to drive my 36v motor.
When the cable goes through the V-Box II, I noticed I was getting very poor signal quality levels on some of the Disney channels, on 19.2E, when I connected the cable, directly to my VU+ Duo 2, I noticed the signal levels went back up to 99%.
Since I have a twin LNB, on my motorized dish, I set Tuner B, which has the cable straight from the LNB, to the receiver, to preferred tuner, I haven't experienced any problems, with scanning in, or viewing the Disney channels.

When trying to diagnose a problem, it's always best to take everything else, out of the equation, so connect a cable directly, from the LNB, to the receiver, and remove anything else, like the motor, Diseqc switches, or in my case the V-Box II.

I have tried 2 positioners, Motek and GBox. both have the same problem as you, feeding the LNB through them to the receiver. Bypassing the positioner resolves the problem. The frequencies impacted are the same as those interfered with by Dect. Switching off my Dect phone makes no difference but there could be another one next door (semi-detached). I tried creating a faraday cage around the positioner to shield it but was unsuccessful. Possibly finding a better quality positioner might help but the market choice is very limited. I might have to upgrade to a detached house...will my partner go for it?!!

 

[Mickha]

You could use the V-Box II remote, to drive the dish, and run the LNB cable directly to the receiver, but this would cause a problem if doing multiple recordings, on different satellites.