16E feeds

[jeallen01]

12729V 14000 BBC NYE FIREWORKS backup

SNG ID UKI-1904 P1 HD with just Bars & Tone ATM - OTOH, on-screen info with "Broadcast Anywhere, Timeline TV" "1080i50" "Hitomi Matchbox" (???) but also "UHD3", so might that actually carry UHD when it goes live????

 

[hastingsDXer]

I am scanning 16E in blind mode for any new Winterwatch feeds as they seem to use 16E for this in the past. Will my little Octagon box likely pick these up in blind mode, or would I have to enter the transponders manually? I get a handful of globecast test channels etc, so I assume these are picked up in blind mode, but I'm not sure.

Thanks!

 

[ozumo]

Blind scan would be able to find them if your dish was big enough to lock the signal however as your profile says you're using a Zone 1 Sky dish there's almost no chance you'll be able to receive feeds from 16°E.

 

[hastingsDXer]

Thanks Ozumo. I do get about 250 or so broadcast channels but I presume these are blasted out with a lot more power and from what you’re saying I won’t likely be able to get these backhaul feeds?

 

[ozumo]

Yes feeds are generally, but not always, weaker than broadcast channels. You might get lucky but unless you get a larger dish I wouldn't expect you to able to receive them.

 

[hastingsDXer]

Many thanks - that's good to know.

Be grateful to hear from anyone else if any feeds have popped up yet - I believe the broadcasts begin tonight but I'd assume they'd be already active?

 

[ozumo]

A Winterwatch feed was reported on Satelliweb yesterday on 16°E

Divertissement : Fréquences des feeds archivés - Satelliweb

www.satelliweb.com

 

[jeallen01]

Take a look at the 16E info in @william-1's activity list from last Friday, and then at one of the websites that list channels & feeds by satellite (e.g. Lyngsat) - that should allow you to identify the correct 16E transponders to manually add & then monitor on your Rx.

That's how I recently found a couple of transponders on 36E (on my SX88+) that were transmitting feeds from the last couple of days of the Dakar Rally but didn't appear to have been reported on satelliweb.

PS: and a larger dish (even a Sky Zone 2 in place of /addition to your Zone 1) would certainly be very beneficial.

 

[mapperuo]

I am scanning 16E in blind mode for any new Winterwatch feeds as they seem to use 16E for this in the past. Will my little Octagon box likely pick these up in blind mode, or would I have to enter the transponders manually? I get a handful of globecast test channels etc, so I assume these are picked up in blind mode, but I'm not sure.

Thanks!

Ill let you know if I see any, none active atm so far.

Just an FYI.

They use LiveU and IP these days, the sat feeds are backups and sometimes they haven't even bothered to turn them on, their trust in IP is obviously very good.

2020 was fantastic and I miss it.. They had 2x HD sat feeds from each host and a reverse vision, Was like 9 feeds in total I think!

 

[mapperuo]

Be grateful to hear from anyone else if any feeds have popped up yet - I believe the broadcasts begin tonight but I'd assume they'd be already active?

They usually pop up an hour before transmission.

 

[Jamie A]

I saw Winterwatch testing feeds on Sunday

12700 V 8000 3/4 DVB-S2/8PSK "UKI-1445 P-1"
12718 V 4166 5/6 DVB-S2/QPSK "BBC SATOPS"

Cheers

 

[jeallen01]

Out of curiosity: why do most feeds (that I've seen!) use relatively low (less than 10,000) SR's whereas the actual sat broadcasts use much higher (typically around 30,000) ones?

For my part, I can only surmise that these feeds are very directional, to pro-quality reception kit and are well monitored for tranmission quality, whereas the final broadcast channels are for (often) very large areas with variable reception equipment, and also that those higher rates are already established as the "norm" for such areas.

 

[hastingsDXer]

Cheers for the input, everyone. Sounds like I will struggle with my current equipment - but very interesting nonetheless to hear everyone's points. Thanks!

 

[mapperuo]

Out of curiosity: why do most feeds (that I've seen!) use relatively low (less than 10,000) SR's whereas the actual sat broadcasts use much higher (typically around 30,000) ones?

For my part, I can only surmise that these feeds are very directional, to pro-quality reception kit and are well monitored for tranmission quality, whereas the final broadcast channels are for (often) very large areas with variable reception equipment, and also that those higher rates are already established as the "norm" for such areas.

The 30,000 SR broadcasts have 4-5 HD channels or like dozens of SD channels in it.

Backhauls rarely have multiple channels, they usually just uplink them as separate feeds.

BBC usually like to use around 32mbit for a main feed, 14400/15000 SR (seems to depend on the satellite), or half that for a backup feed.

 

[jeallen01]

The 30,000 SR broadcasts have 4-5 HD channels or like dozens of SD channels in it.

Backhauls rarely have multiple channels, they usually just uplink them as separate feeds.

BBC usually like to use around 32mbit for a main feed, 14400/15000 SR (seems to depend on the satellite), or half that for a backup feed.

That makes sense to me!

 

[mapperuo]

I am scanning 16E in blind mode for any new Winterwatch feeds as they seem to use 16E for this in the past. Will my little Octagon box likely pick these up in blind mode, or would I have to enter the transponders manually? I get a handful of globecast test channels etc, so I assume these are picked up in blind mode, but I'm not sure.

Thanks!

It's up

12690 V 8000

 

[hastingsDXer]

It's up

12690 V 8000

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Nice! Yep, nothing for me on my small dish. But now I know what to aim for!

 

[Manikm909]

It's up

12690 V 8000

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on ya 1.8m?

 

[Channel Hopper]

Nice! Yep, nothing for me on my small dish. But now I know what to aim for!

The 80cm dish with the Bullseye LNB gets a sniff on the GTCombo (11%), not enough for a lock.

 

[mapperuo]

on ya 1.8m?

Yeh 11.6db and it’s a 3/4 8PSK feed so plenty margin