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Is anyone here from UK or Europe able to pick up thenC band feeds on this bird. If so what size dish and LNB are you using?
 

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As in general, nothing under 2.4m makes sense, preferably 3m and over.
 

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Hi Team

Is anyone here from UK or Europe able to pick up thenC band feeds on this bird. If so what size dish and LNB are you using?


There seems to have been a surge in interest for this satellite across the forums since the Cricket T20 World Cup feeds started to be uplinked to it :cool:

I can "see" the two cricket world cup feeds on a spectrum analyser but cannot lock them with a receiver using a 2.0m dish fitted with a Titanium C-Band LNBF (the older WiMax model).
However, I have partial blockage of the dish from a neighbours tree and I am also getting swamped with 5G interference. My guess based on my status is that with a clear line of sight to the satellite it might be possible to receive it with a 2.4m dish as suggested by @Satfaca subject to the absence/prescence of any 5G interference at the dish location.

I am in Surrey, within the M25 where there are lots of 5G towers. In a more rural location with fewer 5G towers it should be possible to get these feeds in the UK, subject to dish size.
 

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Hi Team

Is anyone here from UK or Europe able to pick up thenC band feeds on this bird. If so what size dish and LNB are you using?

I do - i get reasonably good results from my 2.2m PF when set up accurate, but ideally a larger reflector would be great.
I use a motorised scalar ring positioner with motorised Norsat lnb + ALGA RED 3.8~4.2GHz 5G filter fed through a square section ribbed poloriser.

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Wow @John
I want this

Is their any decent installers

Is there any KU band frequency activated

I have a channel Master 1.2M dish
 

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Wow @John
I want this

Is their any decent installers

Is there any KU band frequency activated

I have a channel Master 1.2M dish

That particular UK dish manufacturer for my 2.2m was 'Elite Antennas' , previously known as 'Precision Antennas' before being sold on to 'Elite' - they ceased production a while back now and as far as i'm aware there are no more UK suppliers of this type of dish. Used ones do come along on the 'Used' market some times. Large Off-Set types of dish and mounts etc can be obtained from a Northern UK company SSS.
The motorisation of the scalar ring and Circ pol stuff is home brew, the lnb and ribbed poloriser are commercial units that are still available.
The dish AZ & EL actuators and a Research Concepts RC2000 Dual Axis antenna controller are commercial units that are still available, used and new.
The dish AZ/EL mount is home brew fabricated.
No known Ku on 47.5°West as far as i know.
Re: Installers - this kind of install is mainly done by the owners.
 

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Wow @John
I want this
Is their any decent installers
Is there any KU band frequency activated
I have a channel Master 1.2M dish


You have absolutely no chance to receive feeds from 47.5W with a 1.2m dish.

Apart from dish size, the Cricket T20 World Cup feeds are in the 3700's MHz range which is close to the 5G frequencies used in the UK.
Fitting an ALGA Red inline band pass filter or using any type of 3.8 - 4.2 GHz filtering will block reception of the T20 World Cup frequencies.

With a suitable size dish and a 3.7 - 4.2GHz filtered setup locking these feeds should be possible at a UK location.

As indicated by @John an installation similar to his is probably beyond the scope of most puffers and blaggers who call themselves installers.
There are one or two installers in the UK who might be capable but be prepared to get your cheeks spread with the installation fee for that level of customisation and hardware.
 

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You have absolutely no chance to receive feeds from 47.5W with a 1.2m dish.

Apart from dish size, the Cricket T20 World Cup feeds are in the 3700's MHz range which is close to the 5G frequencies used in the UK.
Fitting an ALGA Red inline band pass filter or using any type of 3.8 - 4.2 GHz filtering will block reception of the T20 World Cup frequencies.

With a suitable size dish and a 3.7 - 4.2GHz filtered setup locking these feeds should be possible at a UK location.

As indicated by @John an installation similar to his is probably beyond the scope of most puffers and blaggers who call themselves installers.
There are one or two installers in the UK who might be capable but be prepared to get your cheeks spread with the installation fee for that level of customisation and hardware.


Agreed,
>>" but be prepared to get your cheeks spread with the installation fee for that level of customisation and hardware."<<
Love it :p.
 

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Agreed,
>>" but be prepared to get your cheeks spread with the installation fee for that level of customisation and hardware."<<
Love it :p.


Plain speaking, I say it as it is, no point giving false hopes to people.

@John If you check the front end hardware on your setup its gotta be close to £1k or more just for the feed assembly.

1. Prodelin rib tickler polariser tube and feedhorn
2. ALGA RED in line band pass filter
3. Norsat LNB
4. Customised skew control hardware.

Add in the cost of a pair of Venture actuators for dual axis motorisation, a 2.2m PF dish from a world class manufacturer and other components
There aint gonna be much change from five bags of sand just for the kit excluding, installation fees.

As far as DX hobby men go, it is possibly the most advanced C-Band dish installation in the UK.
Just saying like.....
 

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Plain speaking, I say it as it is, no point giving false hopes to people.

@John If you check the front end hardware on your setup its gotta be close to £1k or more just for the feed assembly.

1. Prodelin rib tickler polariser tube and feedhorn
2. ALGA RED in line band pass filter
3. Norsat LNB
4. Customised skew control hardware.

Add in the cost of a pair of Venture actuators for dual axis motorisation, a 2.2m PF dish from a world class manufacturer and other components
There aint gonna be much change from five bags of sand just for the kit excluding, installation fees.

As far as DX hobby men go, it is possibly the most advanced C-Band dish installation in the UK.
Just saying like.....


Yep, can be a very expensive hobby that's for sure
 

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Guys are you scary the sh*t out of me of the costs involved.

Why not just use the KU band frequencies!!!

I'm sure when I'm tuning g this bird I'm getting data feeds on 47.5W or is that 45W
 

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C-band is very much a minority hobby in the UK. You can get a few satellites with smaller dishes - I did some experiments with 20E a few years ago & got reasonable results on a badly set up 1m dish.

Good C-band installs with big dishes though you are looking at costs in the multi thousand pound range. Plus you will need to get planning permission & hope you dont upset the neighbours with a monster dish....
 

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Guys are you scary the sh*t out of me of the costs involved.
Why not just use the KU band frequencies!!!
I'm sure when I'm tuning g this bird I'm getting data feeds on 47.5W or is that 45W


Phone the satellite owners or the broadcaster uplink crews, they might advise why C-Band is used on 47.5W for satellite TV.
Hobby DX Men generally accept the status quo as to what is available.

You are probably correct re data feeds from 47.5W in Ku-Band, Flysat lists quite a few of these frequencies, some of which might be on beams receivable to the UK.
As for C-Band satellite TV reception from 47.5W at a UK location, it's decent size dishes and ancilliary equipment costings bags of sand to get anywhere.
 

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Hi Team

You guys have a walth of knowledge. Tha ks for sharing this.

hope some one can post the feeds on 47.5W related to the T20.

If anyone has any KU band data links on this bird please send them so I can try to.lock onto this bird.

Test card query:-

This test card appears on a live channel

Does this test card indicate a Fibre uplink rather than a satellite up link?
 

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hope some one can post the feeds on 47.5W related to the T20.



Test card query:-
This test card appears on a live channel
Does this test card indicate a Fibre uplink rather than a satellite up link?


The T20 World Cup cricket feeds from 47.5W are on
3761R, SR10000
3773R, SR10000

Was the test card you uploaded from 47.5W in Ku-Band or was it from another satellite/source?
 

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Is the T20 feed active on this satellite today
 

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Is the T20 feed active on this satellite today


Yes, active on 47.5 West.
There is also a T20 World Cup cricket feed on 87.0 West with frequency of 4138V and SR14400.
 
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