5E SES-5

pride21

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hi all I have been experimenting with the plate again I am using 1mm copper wire through out,so far its looking very good a lot of channels have come in stronger,anyway I tried this sat I have been getting rave with about 12.4db I have never got a signal of any sort with R2 TV with this new plate I am getting 4.1dbP4140048.jpg
 
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[SATTYPE]
1=0049
2=C-Band SES-5
3=3
4=5150
5=0
6=0
[DVB]
0=3
1=3691,H,1299,56,21,|-51 dBm, 5.3 dB
2=3989,H,46990,?,20,|-49 dBm, 2.8 dB
3=4049,H,44990,56,148,|-47 dBm, 3.2 dB
 
Captain Jack

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Pride, do you have a picture of this plate? I am still using the one you sent me with great results.
 
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hi CJ as soon as it stops raining I will take the plate out and post picture
 
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hi CJ here is a picture of the plateP5060052.jpg
 
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Interesting! Will try to make one like it. Did you just use super glue? Also, do you have the measurements of gaps etc.?
 
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hi CJ all the parts were superglued on,the outside pins are 6.5mm,7.5mm,10mm,11.5mm,11.5mm,11.5mm then 10mm,7.5mm,6.5mm,starting from bottom the main oblong shapes are 22mm*10mm,next one is 25mm*12mm then the top one is 20mm*10mm the gaps on the outside pins are 6mm between hope that helps.
 
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Brilliant, thanks pride!
 
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hi CJ all the parts were superglued on,the outside pins are 6.5mm,7.5mm,10mm,11.5mm,11.5mm,11.5mm then 10mm,7.5mm,6.5mm,starting from bottom the main oblong shapes are 22mm*10mm,next one is 25mm*12mm then the top one is 20mm*10mm the gaps on the outside pins are 6mm between hope that helps.
Does this really work? I might try modding a plate for my C Band on my 1.2, to see if it improves anything.
 
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New:

3843 R 1054 9/10 DVB-S2 QPSK African Health TV from Nigeria

Signal of the day:

3860 R, 3865 R, 3869 R, 3871 R, 3876 R and 3692 L.
 

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Forget something yesterday, as I can see now.

3864 R 1130 5/6 DVB-S AFRIKTV is new

Also new:

3867 R 1400 2/3 DVB-S LoveWorld Plus from Nigeria

Not new, but signal of the day: 3865 R

Scan of the day.
 

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Vipersan

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Finally got round to including a position on the Vbox for SES 5 @5E ..
and tried a blind scan on the F15..
Nothing found ..
However inputting a few transpoder details manually ..I did manage to log a few channels ..
Including Rave TV at a very respectable 13db ..
The only time I have had similar issues was back when a few channels were available to me on 17E ..
Conclusion ..
SES5 the new Amos 5 ..
This bird behaves much the same way ...an oddity to be sure.
So far I have RaveTV R2TV and the SES SD Demo.
Lyngsat list is out of date ...and possibly Flysat ..
I guess my only real option for scanning and discovering new channels is with the TBS card ..then once discovered inputting the details in the F15 manually.
Chances are the low SRs and or odd fec(s) are the reason.
Any chance of a complete and current up-to- date list of TV channels with channel datas SR's etc
rgds
VS
 
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Thanks @Vipersan ,
TXp H5 with 3.10m , got them all, but probably too hard for a 1.50m (I'll check it later with 1.80m)
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Got some questions for you Pride..
re the recent plate.
Obviously you now have more elements than the original DOS plate ..
Do you find there is significant improvement now ?
The original plate used solid rectangles rather than loops ..
again ..are there significant advantages ?
I am currently making a hybrid using o.5mm thick elements cut from copper sheet ..
I have more to make yet ..
the photo shows what I've made so far ..but this is difficult work for old eyes and hands that don't function properly ..so want to be sure its worth the effort.
Finally ..again You are now using copper wire rather than flat leaf elements ..
How do they compare ?
rgds
VS
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Oh ..forgot a question ..
The spacing between the elements and centre elements ..
Are the spaces on the outer elements equidistant and if so what are they ?
similar question applies to the centre rectangles.
 
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Vipersan

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2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
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Well ..
completed the plate but didn't see any significant improvement ...so chances are I made it wrong ..or innacuracies due to my degraded eyesight.
I will have another go with 1mm copper wire ..at some point ..
lost skin from my finger ends ..
I hate superglue,,,lol
Gone back to the original plate for now ..kindly supplied by Pride some while back..
Yep it still performs as well as ever ..
Not sure yet if your new design will perform better ..only time will tell.
My eyes are so poor these days that reading a ruler is an issue.
Don't get old guys ..you wont like it.
;)
 
pride21

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150cm gibertini dish,echostar 8700 analogue receiver to move dish,motor jaeger 1224,also black ultra ku lnb and esx241 c-band lnbf and technomate 5402hd ci+ super also added a Dr HD f15 receiver
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hi VS the latest plate works very well against the copper foil though the copper foil is very good but the 1mm copper wire I am using at the moment I found it works very well I tested both through the arc I found on some channels that the copper wire plate brought in channels and the copper tape showed a flicker,the only thing I changed on the one I am using is the top middle element which is 22mm by 10mm,the bottom middle element is 3mm from bottom of plate the other two elements are 1mm gap apart,the outside elements are 6mm between each element,i see you are experimenting with copper plate I did try that VS but was not good as the copper foil,i hope you have better luck than me
 
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2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
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Thanks for the update Pride ..
I guess I could do with a large printed version of your plate with dimensions actually written on it ..
I'll get round to this in time ..
I just cant focus on tiny detail any more..
damned eyes..
btw ..have you tried or even considered etching the design on copper clad board ..
Sadly they dont make copper clad perspex ..but they do make copper clad fibre glass ..
maybe this would work ?
rgds
VS
 
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150cm gibertini dish,echostar 8700 analogue receiver to move dish,motor jaeger 1224,also black ultra ku lnb and esx241 c-band lnbf and technomate 5402hd ci+ super also added a Dr HD f15 receiver
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hi VS yes I did consider the idea of etching out a plate but by the time I would have brought the etching kit and glass fibre board it was cheaper to obtain a blank cd case and copper foil then there was not any guarantee it would work,if you find making a new plate too much for the fingers VS I will make one for you I know what its like getting old with ailments.
 
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AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
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hi VS yes I did consider the idea of etching out a plate but by the time I would have brought the etching kit and glass fibre board it was cheaper to obtain a blank cd case and copper foil then there was not any guarantee it would work,if you find making a new plate too much for the fingers VS I will make one for you I know what its like getting old with ailments.
Oh yes please Pride ..
If you wouldn't mind making me a copy of your latestest version to test ..Id very much appreciate it.
As you rightly say ..ageing eyes and poorly hands make the job much much harder.
rgds
Evan
 
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150cm gibertini dish,echostar 8700 analogue receiver to move dish,motor jaeger 1224,also black ultra ku lnb and esx241 c-band lnbf and technomate 5402hd ci+ super also added a Dr HD f15 receiver
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Sandown Isle of Wight
hi VS no probs send it as soon as I have made it.
 
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