Astra 2E at 28.2E: General Discussion Part 2

[Schroeder]

Not on a 1m anymore bud.

think that was a typo on my part (should be 1.1M... Seen reports of 1.1M that do pick up (although no more details)

 

[dvdfilm]

Well if the purpose was to hit expats,we can say they have failed because the majority of expats is in Spain and this spot beam is quite receivable.

 

[Tururu]

Thanks for your reports Tururu! I'm also close to Madrid and with the same dish size. I'm not at home so can't check signals for the moment. Are the migrated BBC channels watchable (without pixelation)?

@ MadridMan.
The signal is much stronger than the old ASTRA2D, see how he behaves during the day.
Overnight without pixelation normally it started raining hard and some tp's of 6'5dB 4'5dB fell over and if they began to pixelate but gave me time to throw a picture.
In DB800S-HD tuner the BER is higher than the Du + DUO2, but in the 2 without pixelated, cloudy or overcast.
The 2-output LNB is not 100% the same but will have good levels with the antenna you have.
If levels remain good, but have little antenna for bad weather.

Thank you all for the new data / information.
Changes in disney with tp and SID 11914.
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@ Madridman.
La señal es mucho mas fuerte que con el viejo Astra2D, veremos como se porta durante el dia.
Durante la noche sin pixelacion normalmente, empezo a llover fuerte y algunos tp's de 6'5dB bajaron mas de 4'5dB y si, empezaron a pixelar pero no me dio tiempo a tirar una foto.
En el sintonizador DB800S-HD el BER es mas alto que el Du+DUO2, pero en los 2 sin pixelaciones, nublado o muy nublado.
El LNB de 2 salidas no es 100% igual pero tendras buenos niveles con la antena que tienes.
Si se mantienen los niveles bien, pero poca antena tienes para mal tiempo.

Gracias a todos por los nuevos datos/informacion.
Los cambios de disney con tp y SID 11914.

 

[Huevos]

Are you sure what is/was on 10876V hasn't migrated to 12266H as I think it's carrying a copy of these.

Yes, I'm tracking the transponders on a Linux box. It shifted to PE for about 30 minutes. http://satellites-xml.org/28E-SNR.php

 

[Tururu]

Cloudy, fall 4 drops.
For boys the test signal levels are much higher than with the old Astra2D touches down something else.
Thanks for uploading the north footprint, I can put back the old antenna 80cm.
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Nublado, caen 4 gotas.
Para los chicos de los test, los niveles de señal son mucho mas altos que con el viejo Astra2D, toca bajar algo mas.
Gracias por subir la huella norte, podre poner de nuevo la vieja antena de 80cm.

Madrid North (40.5458°N, 3.612°W) near Ikea.
94cm dish, DB800S-HD, simple style/sencillo.
6-2-2014 10:45(spain) 9:45(GMT)

10714 =  14.00dB  Channel 4 (c4l)
10729 =  14.50dB  Channel 4 +1
10744 =  13.50dB ========>>>>> 8.0dB RTE One
10758 =  14.50dB  ITV
10773 =  13.00dB ========>>>>> 8.0dB BBC 1 London
10788 =  14.00dB ========>>>>> 9.0dB BBC 1 Wales
10803 =  13.50dB ========>>>>> 8.5dB BBC 1 Scotland
10817 =  14.00dB ========>>>>> 9.0dB BBC 1 Oxford
10832 =  15.00dB  ITV HD
10847 =  14.00dB ========>>>>> 8.5dB BBC One HD
10862 =  14.00dB ========>>>>> 8.5dB Disney
10876 =  14.50dB ========>>>>> 9.0dB Nickelodeon
10891 =  14.00dB  ITV +1
10906 =  15.00dB  STV
10921 =  15.00dB ========>>>>> 9.0dB TCM
10935 =  15.50dB ========>>>>> 9.5dB ITV HD
10964 =   9.50dB  Channel 5
10994 =   9.00dB  ITV HD
11023 =   9.00dB  BBC 1 Scot HD
11053 =   9.50dB  ITV +1
11067 =   9.50dB  20800/810 y 21000 (ITV HD)
11097 =  10.00dB  21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)
11126 =  10.00dB  Channel 4 HD
11222 =   9.50dB  Greatest Hits
11224 =  11.50dB  RT HD
11260 =  10.50dB  B4U Music
11261 =  10.00dB  horror channel
11307 =  11.00dB  Flava Bliss Scuzz
11343 =  11.00dB  CBS Reality
11344 =  11.00dB  CBS Drama
11426 =  10.00dB  FRANCE 24 eng
11428 =   9.50dB  Fashion One/LBP TV
11719 =  18.50dB  Lifetime HD
11739 =  18.00dB
11758 =  19.00dB  Animal Plnt HD
11778 =  18.00dB
11797 =  17.50dB
11817 =  17.50dB
11836 =  18.00dB  Sky Action
11856 =  17.00dB  E4 HD
11875 =  18.50dB
11895 =  17.50dB
11914 =  17.50dB  Pick
11934 =  17.50dB  Sky Intro
11992 =   9.00dB  Dave
12012 =  18.00dB  Sky Family HD
12031 =  19.00dB
12051 =  16.50dB
12070 =  16.00dB ========>>>>> 8.0dB
12090 =  16.50dB ========>>>>> 6.0dB
12109 =  18.00dB
12148 =  17.00dB ========>>>>> 9.0dB
12168 =  16.50dB ========>>>>> 6.5dB
12187 =  19.00dB
12207 =  17.00dB  Pick/Sky News
12226 =  17.00dB ========>>>>> 8.5dB
12246 =  16.00dB ========>>>>> 6.0dB
12265 =  19.00dB
12285 =  18.00dB
12304 =  16.00dB ========>>>>> 8.0dB
12324 =  17.00dB ========>>>>> 9.5dB
12343 =  19.00dB
12363 =  18.50dB
12382 =  18.50dB  Dave HD
12460 =  18.50dB  Sky 3D
12480 =   6.50dB  Box Kiss Kerrang Smash Hits
12515 =  18.00dB  MOTORS TV UK
12520 =  17.50dB  Heart Capital Clubland PlanetPop
12545 =  18.00dB
12551 =  17.00dB
12574 =  17.50dB
12580 =  17.00dB
12604 =  17.00dB
12610 =  17.00dB  Kiss Magic RT
12633 =  17.50dB  Al Jazeera
12640 =  17.00dB
12663 =  15.50dB  Euronews
12669 =  16.00dB  CH NINE UK

Changes tp Disney Channel.
Cambios en el tp del canal Disney.

PS: Good fishing/Buena pesca.

 

[denis1501]

Astra 2E spot beam is being received without issue in Northern Italy on dishes of 120cm, I've read reports from Milan and Genoa.

 

[Huevos]

Changes tp Disney Channel.
Cambios en el tp del canal Disney.

That was remapped a few hours ago.
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...l-discussion-part-2.160642/page-7#post-872407

 

[timo_w2s]

Yes, I'm tracking the transponders on a Linux box. It shifted to PE for about 30 minutes. http://satellites-xml.org/28E-SNR.php

At least this gives pretty good evidence that 2E lower band can switch to Europe beam if they wanted.

 

[mickwig]

Thats what I have been saying (or writing) all the time.

Flexibility!!

 

[Pietclock]

2E has the same wobble like 2F, around noon it peaked and even right now reception is possible with 100cm. But like 2F, it is going down again and prob. will have its minimum around 21.30h.

 

[e3204matic]

All BBc channels gone pace skydigibox 1.2 Malaga sain

 

[Acuario]

Reception in Southern Cataluña 'Fringe land' is as expected. Nothing on a 1.2M dish anywhere. 1.9 is ok to just north of Xerta then 2.4 is needed until at least Ginestar where 2F will lock but not 2E. In Mora (9Km away) nothing on either.

In Tres Cales north of L'Ametlla de Mar 2E and 2F lock but are not really watchable due to pixilation.
Back a 14Km south in L'Ampolla all are ok on 1.9.

The drop off is incredible over a very short distance.

All tests done using a 1.9M famaval and Invacon twin LNB.

 

[welshman234]

2E has the same wobble like 2F, around noon it peaked and even right now reception is possible with 100cm. But like 2F, it is going down again and prob. will have its minimum around 21.30h.

Too early to say i think........but i will be Interested to See what Happens dring Peak viewing Time.

 

[solarboy]

It would be nice to see a compiled list of what channels are left on the PE beams.

 

[tothbros]

It would be nice to see a compiled list of what channels are left on the PE beams.

we dont know yet if this is final. for example, we dont know if these tp's remain on 2a until 2g arrives, or they are to move to 2f/2e?
and sky seems to play with shifting beams, so we'll have to wait a few more days to see the final situation

 

[timo_w2s]

we dont know yet if this is final. for example, we dont know if these tp's remain on 2a until 2g arrives, or they are to move to 2f/2e?
and sky seems to play with shifting beams, so we'll have to wait a few more days to see the final situation

True, but with the exception of a few Disney channels and Nickelodeon channels moving to a Europe beam, everything else has stayed as it was, it's just the spots are narrower now on the new satellite. There have been no big movements from UK Spot to Europe or Europe to UK Spot beams.

 

[Pietclock]

Well it is quite clear now, BSkyB are not interested in a Spot beam distribution... and all those small FTA stuff like planet pop etc arent either.

 

[timo_w2s]

Well it is quite clear now, BSkyB are not interested in a Spot beam distribution... and all those small FTA stuff like planet pop etc arent either.

I suspect those small FTA stations are more interested in cost of transmission rather than if they are on a spot or not.

 

[tothbros]

still, no complaints here...sky channels stayed on pe beams, so i can get my fix of british telly. although its pay tv, but its cheaper then building a NASA space station on my roof to watch bbc ;)

 

[welshman234]

Looking at my diary entry when BBC went to astra 2f Last Year i notice the SNR was only about 45% on my Vu when it began and I now regularly have about 68-72% 24/7 I reckon the Signal will get stronger as It gets a Bit of power on