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hi all using an azbox at the minute,very good for 4.2.2 feeds,but it has no blind scan,whats the best receiver for blind searching and nothing else,thanks
 

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hi all using an azbox at the minute,very good for 4.2.2 feeds,but it has no blind scan,whats the best receiver for blind searching and nothing else,thanks
 

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"William 1" on 28th January 2009 at Sat-universe. com forum, posted.

Blindscan recievers.

1/ Manhattan Plaza XT series
2/ Vantage X200S series. Blind scan in 1,2,3,4 or 5 MHz scanning steps. Tunner about as sensitive as TM1500CI+Super, but not quite as sensitive as TM5200usb or Plaza XT-F.
3/ Technomate TM1000 Super series
4/ Technomate TM5000usb series
5/ Manhattan ST series
6/ Echolink EL777
7/ FortecStar Lifetime Ultra

A different poster "Purplemarina" on 24th June 2009 at Techwatch.com forum, answering the same question, posted
Own Vantage X200S, Manhattan XT-F, and TM1000 blind scanning receivers. Find the Vantage X200S best and fastest for blindscans.

I dovercat own a Manhattan Plaza-XT.
The Manhattan Plaza-XT blindscan in 1000-2000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, 2000-4000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, or all symbolrates 8 MHz steps. You can also stipulate the starting and end frequencies for the blindscan and the polarity to be scanned. It is relatively fast, especially all symbolrates 8MHz steps scan but it occasionally misses a low symbolrate transponder that a slower 4MHz step scan picks up.
The Manhattan might in theory miss a very low symbolrate transponder if it is was very close <4MHz away for a very high symbolrate transponder, that a Vantage X200S should find due to its smaller as low as 1MHz scanning steps. But the Manhattan allegedly has a faster blindscan and slightly more sensitive tunner so it might find slightly weaker transponders than the Vantage can. So its swings and roundabouts.

The receivers above are only DVB-S so you might want to look at getting a computer satellite tuner card or different receiver as the number of feeds using DVB-S2 is apparantly increasing.
 

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"William 1" on 28th January 2009 at Sat-universe. com forum, posted.

Blindscan recievers.

1/ Manhattan Plaza XT series
2/ Vantage X200S series. Blind scan in 1,2,3,4 or 5 MHz scanning steps. Tunner about as sensitive as TM1500CI+Super, but not quite as sensitive as TM5200usb or Plaza XT-F.
3/ Technomate TM1000 Super series
4/ Technomate TM5000usb series
5/ Manhattan ST series
6/ Echolink EL777
7/ FortecStar Lifetime Ultra

A different poster "Purplemarina" on 24th June 2009 at Techwatch.com forum, answering the same question, posted
Own Vantage X200S, Manhattan XT-F, and TM1000 blind scanning receivers. Find the Vantage X200S best and fastest for blindscans.

I dovercat own a Manhattan Plaza-XT.
The Manhattan Plaza-XT blindscan in 1000-2000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, 2000-4000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, or all symbolrates 8 MHz steps. You can also stipulate the starting and end frequencies for the blindscan and the polarity to be scanned. It is relatively fast, especially all symbolrates 8MHz steps scan but it occasionally misses a low symbolrate transponder that a slower 4MHz step scan picks up.
The Manhattan might in theory miss a very low symbolrate transponder if it is was very close <4MHz away for a very high symbolrate transponder, that a Vantage X200S should find due to its smaller as low as 1MHz scanning steps. But the Manhattan allegedly has a faster blindscan and slightly more sensitive tunner so it might find slightly weaker transponders than the Vantage can. So its swings and roundabouts.

The receivers above are only DVB-S so you might want to look at getting a computer satellite tuner card or different receiver as the number of feeds using DVB-S2 is apparantly increasing.
 

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thanks dovercat seeing i have a azbox as my main receiver i need something that can find all types of transmission thanks
 

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thanks dovercat seeing i have a azbox as my main receiver i need something that can find all types of transmission thanks
 

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hi -

i got a Vantage X200S series last year for blind searching --
very happy with it -- like all the different step settings etc for blind scan -- and i can confirm that the tuner is more sensitive than most recievers -- i certainly prefer it to the fortec lifetime ultra --although that did very well for me for a number of years ---

regards nelson.b.
 

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hi -

i got a Vantage X200S series last year for blind searching --
very happy with it -- like all the different step settings etc for blind scan -- and i can confirm that the tuner is more sensitive than most recievers -- i certainly prefer it to the fortec lifetime ultra --although that did very well for me for a number of years ---

regards nelson.b.
 

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hi nelson does it find dvb/s2 hd and 4.2.2 feeds though
 

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iwol said:
hi nelson does it find dvb/s2 hd and 4.2.2 feeds though


hi -
sorry for a late reply ---
no it only finds 4.2.2 feed channels -- not dvb/s2 hd --

regards nelson.b.
 

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iwol said:
hi nelson does it find dvb/s2 hd and 4.2.2 feeds though


hi -
sorry for a late reply ---
no it only finds 4.2.2 feed channels -- not dvb/s2 hd --

regards nelson.b.
 

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Hi I am now using a technomate 6800 super for dvb-s2 hd feeds, the blindscan scan is a lot slower than the vantage maybe 3 times longer, but the scan is very through and dosent miss much, the tuner is sensitive better than the vantage. it finds 422 feeds although it dosent decode them. regards pm.
 

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Hi I am now using a technomate 6800 super for dvb-s2 hd feeds, the blindscan scan is a lot slower than the vantage maybe 3 times longer, but the scan is very through and dosent miss much, the tuner is sensitive better than the vantage. it finds 422 feeds although it dosent decode them. regards pm.
 

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Echolink 3020,has also a fast blindscan and good sensitve tuner like dm 800!
old manhattan plaza series has a very bad tuner!
in the meantime there are so many blinscans avalible of diffrent brands,on the market!
 

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Echolink 3020,has also a fast blindscan and good sensitve tuner like dm 800!
old manhattan plaza series has a very bad tuner!
in the meantime there are so many blinscans avalible of diffrent brands,on the market!
 

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dovercat said:
I dovercat own a Manhattan Plaza-XT.
The Manhattan Plaza-XT blindscan in 1000-2000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, 2000-4000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, or all symbolrates 8 MHz steps. You can also stipulate the starting and end frequencies for the blindscan and the polarity to be scanned. It is relatively fast, especially all symbolrates 8MHz steps scan but it occasionally misses a low symbolrate transponder that a slower 4MHz step scan picks up.
The Manhattan might in theory miss a very low symbolrate transponder if it is was very close <4MHz away for a very high symbolrate transponder, that a Vantage X200S should find due to its smaller as low as 1MHz scanning steps. But the Manhattan allegedly has a faster blindscan and slightly more sensitive tunner so it might find slightly weaker transponders than the Vantage can. So its swings and roundabouts.

The receivers above are only DVB-S so you might want to look at getting a computer satellite tuner card or different receiver as the number of feeds using DVB-S2 is apparantly increasing.
I've got both of these (Manhattan Plaza XT and the Vantage 2xx). Vantage is far superior. More sensitive tuner. If I set the Vantage to do a full scan on 5mhz step and the Manhattan to 8mhz (all symbol rates) the Vantage always finishes first (even though the steps are smaller) and often finds more.

Manhattan symbol rate thingy isn't very useful. Most feeds are below 7.5 mega symbols, not 4 or 2, so it would be much more useful to isolate this range.

Vantage scans both polarities at the same time as it clicks up in frequency. Manhattan scans verticals on first pass and horizontals on second, not that this matters really.

iwol said:
hi nelson does it find dvb/s2 hd and 4.2.2 feeds though
Not many DVB-S2 blind scan receivers out there. Consider the Vantage 8000. Not sure if it will blind scan on both tuners at once though.
 

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dovercat said:
I dovercat own a Manhattan Plaza-XT.
The Manhattan Plaza-XT blindscan in 1000-2000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, 2000-4000 symbolrates 4MHz steps, or all symbolrates 8 MHz steps. You can also stipulate the starting and end frequencies for the blindscan and the polarity to be scanned. It is relatively fast, especially all symbolrates 8MHz steps scan but it occasionally misses a low symbolrate transponder that a slower 4MHz step scan picks up.
The Manhattan might in theory miss a very low symbolrate transponder if it is was very close <4MHz away for a very high symbolrate transponder, that a Vantage X200S should find due to its smaller as low as 1MHz scanning steps. But the Manhattan allegedly has a faster blindscan and slightly more sensitive tunner so it might find slightly weaker transponders than the Vantage can. So its swings and roundabouts.

The receivers above are only DVB-S so you might want to look at getting a computer satellite tuner card or different receiver as the number of feeds using DVB-S2 is apparantly increasing.
I've got both of these (Manhattan Plaza XT and the Vantage 2xx). Vantage is far superior. More sensitive tuner. If I set the Vantage to do a full scan on 5mhz step and the Manhattan to 8mhz (all symbol rates) the Vantage always finishes first (even though the steps are smaller) and often finds more.

Manhattan symbol rate thingy isn't very useful. Most feeds are below 7.5 mega symbols, not 4 or 2, so it would be much more useful to isolate this range.

Vantage scans both polarities at the same time as it clicks up in frequency. Manhattan scans verticals on first pass and horizontals on second, not that this matters really.

iwol said:
hi nelson does it find dvb/s2 hd and 4.2.2 feeds though
Not many DVB-S2 blind scan receivers out there. Consider the Vantage 8000. Not sure if it will blind scan on both tuners at once though.
 

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interesting thread! thanks guys.

Am looking in to getting a AZbox but heard rumours updates would include a blind scan... anyone know anything?! One day the ultimate receiver will be born. There are many good blind scan receivers but none that decode 4.2.2

being an apple mac man no PC will ever enter into my house :) but am seriously looking at building a PC and having a DVB-S2 tuner. Perhaps I should look more in other forums but not really the info for the beginner - are they good for blindscanning and decoding?
 

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interesting thread! thanks guys.

Am looking in to getting a AZbox but heard rumours updates would include a blind scan... anyone know anything?! One day the ultimate receiver will be born. There are many good blind scan receivers but none that decode 4.2.2

being an apple mac man no PC will ever enter into my house :) but am seriously looking at building a PC and having a DVB-S2 tuner. Perhaps I should look more in other forums but not really the info for the beginner - are they good for blindscanning and decoding?
 
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