Advice Needed Can i access cosmote tv (eutelsat 9b) with existing dish for freesat (eutelsat 16a)?

[LeBelge]

39 is going to be a struggle unless you get a toroidal style dish

What struggle ?
Here is an easy multifeed for
45°E, 39°E, 33°E & 28°E
A 80 cm dish will do the job for only 39°E & 28°E.

 

[Adam792]

The Greek services on 3ºE and 39ºE are encrypted with an encryption called BISS - a bit of online searching and a compatible receiver make them watchable (receivers can be got for as cheap as around £40). They are the feeds for the digital terrestrial network in Greece (two commercial multiplexes from Digea on 3ºE and the two public ERT multiplexes on 39ºE). I do get the impression that they're encrypted in this pretty weak way so as to comply with content rights issues for the Greek channels while still allowing/turning a blind eye to people being able to get them fairly easily still via satellite (almost like a cheap Freesat kind of solution). That's just my impression though and it's certainly not something that can be discussed here in any more detail other than saying to search online!

With Cosmote you'd get all those channels on the same satellite (9ºE), along with the other channels that come as part of the Family package, with the added bonus that those major commercial Digea services (Ant.1, Alpha, Skai etc.) are all in HD.

 

[Marco4]

Thank you all for the feedback.

To make my life easier, I think I will succumb to Cosmote's offering for 13 euros per month, which is a reasonable cost and will also have the added benefit of getting channels in HD, several more Greek channels, without the need of a multi-sat dish, and less hassle if channels decide to broadcast from other satellite Cosmote uses Eutelsat 9 East. Is there any point in getting a 65 cm over a 60 cm dish? Will it make any difference in London? Also, what brands do you suggest for a good quality dish and LNB?

Thanks,

Marco

 

[jeallen01]

... Is there any point in getting a 65 cm over a 60 cm dish? Will it make any difference in London? Also, what brands do you suggest for a good quality dish and LNB?

Thanks,

Marco

5cm size "difference" is irrelevant - doubt you would see any difference at all between them - if you want something bigger then the next significant step would be a decent 75/80cm dish.

BTW: don't be mislead by the quoted sizes - those are generally the distances from the lower edge to the upper edge, whereas the actual significant dimension is usually the horizontal distance of the dish from one edge to the other! Also, different brands and/or advertisers quote these dimensions in different ways and often "generous with the truth" *(and that goes for the big brand names as well as the no-name ones)!

Many available in 75/80cm sizes, often complete with an LNB, quite cheaply but construction and mounting arrangements differ. For a sat with a good footprint in your area, it probably would not make a great difference which one you choose - but the differences between correct or incorrect/sloppy installation of the dish and LNB will however have a far more significant effect than the differences between the dishes of "similar sizes".

However, if you want to be sure and to buy "quality stuff" then something like a TRIAX TD78 or TD88 (both of which are actually "smaller" in reality!) plus an Inverto Black Ultra LNB might be a good starting point - the TD88 is probably the one shown in post #21 - but other members will soon point out other options.
(Also there are lots of s/h dishes & LNBs on ebay/Gumtree/Sphock - some would make pretty good bargains, but one has to be careful on what is chosen and what the realistic prices should be - some people ask virtually the same prices for old stuff as for new items, not realising that the market is actually awash with similar s/h stuff!).

OTOH, TBH, I've got several Lidl/Coship LNBs which cost me about £5-6 each 15 years ago, and, for most purposes, I can't see much real difference in performance between them and the Invertos or the Technomate TM-01s that I bought a couple of years ago !

 

[Lazarus]

^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said.

On all counts.

An 80cm dish really is both surprisingly unobtrusive, but remarkably effective.

 

[william-1]

Improved rain/snow fade with a 80cm dish on 9 east.

 

[LeBelge]

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[LeBelge]

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The dish will turn to any satellite - 5°W, 0.8°W, 3°E, 4.8°E, 9°E, 39°E etc.

All these channels have English audio / sound.



And your Greeks will be there.

 

[Analoguesat]

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and you will succumb for real ...

Ahem - our forum rules are very clear - no direct help for illegal ways of decrypting pay tv services. We are very laid back here but that rule is enforced rigorously to protect the integrity and long term future of the board.

Our advice is and always will be to all members is to buy an approved subscription for any pay tv service(s) you might desire to watch. Advice to investigate card shares & key servers is a definite no-no.