Dr HD F16 ... from Vu+ Uno?

[aceb]

Gripes ..
Resticted to 65 satellite positions ..

A similar situation exists in DVB Dream, is it a limitation of diseqc?

 

[Vipersan]

If by some freak chance anyone who is involved in the production of the F15/F16 box reads this forum ..
How about asking what we ..the customer actually wants ...and what we are prepared to pay for it ...
THEN source the components ..and go into production ...rather than assuming you have the complete product ..which accomodates all user ...and delivering it to market ..
It would avoid much frustration and disappointment for the end user.
You have a forum ..
So ..
Why not use it to listen to your customers.
rgds
VS

 

[Vipersan]

A similar situation exists in DVB Dream, is it a limitation of diseqc?

I suspect it is ..re diseqc 1.2 ...
As with V boxes ..
But I can see no earthly reason why this restriction should apply when using usals (diseqc 1.3)
Angular postion should be ..at least in theory ...limitless.
A combination of both should be possible ..
Diseqc 1.2 ...limit of 65 ..
Diseqc 1.3 ...limitless
rgds
VS

 

[Captain Jack]

Thanks everyone! I tried the AZBox Premium a few years ago and didn't get on with it at all Was a little slow/cumbersome..

Found a nice Russian Dr HD forum with regular patched firmware updates _http://drhd.legion.name/ so will lurk on there and see what goodies it has.

 

[Vipersan]

Thanks everyone! I tried the AZBox Premium a few years ago and didn't get on with it at all Was a little slow/cumbersome..

Found a nice Russian Dr HD forum with regular patched firmware updates _http://drhd.legion.name/ so will lurk on there and see what goodies it has.

If you find any goodies that us poor monoglots could use ...
can you translate the important bits ..and pass on the firmwares or links to the files..
rgds
VS

 

[Captain Jack]

_http://drhd.legion.name/viewforum.php?f=8 a ton of patched firmwares but mainly for making it work with official Russian cards

_http://drhd.legion.name/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=892 here they are comparing tuner sensitivity between F15 and F16. No concrete answers - seems to be the same. Looks like F15 can play AVIs and MKVs whilst the F16 cannot. I would certainly enjoy the long display on the F16 as it's similar to the Uno one but the F15 is a lot cheaper than the F16... Argh! Choices, choices.

I asked a question of whether either of these would be able to update my Platforma card over the LAN so it will all depend on that!

For some reason they are referring to Vu+ receivers as GI<model number> (Galaxy Innovations) on all Russian forums.

 

[digi247]

After looking at the Youtube presentations i am now seriously wanting one of these to have a play with, Just a question for any owners i will be looping through my motor from the F15 to a Vu Duo can anyone tell me what the signal loss maybe is it marginal or quite high.

And lastly where is the best place to get one and any concerns with warranty.


Thanks Guys

 

[strs65]

After looking at the Youtube presentations i am now seriously wanting one of these to have a play with, Just a question for any owners i will be looping through my motor from the F15 to a Vu Duo can anyone tell me what the signal loss maybe is it marginal or quite high.

And lastly where is the best place to get one and any concerns with warranty.

Thanks Guys

Well, the insertion loss is marginal from the loop-through. I'm feeding my DVB cards (TBS6925 and S2-1600) from it and I hardly notice any substancial difference in signal strength, quality and SNR between my cards and the decoder itself.

Personally I bought my F15 from Ireland (the aforementioned e-shop) one year ago. I can't tell anything about warranty, since I didn't need it so far (fortunately).

 

[digi247]

Well, the insertion loss is marginal from the loop-through. I'm feeding my DVB cards (TBS6925 and S2-1600) from it and I hardly notice any substancial difference in signal strength, quality and SNR between my cards and the decoder itself.

Personally I bought my F15 from Ireland (the aforementioned e-shop) one year ago. I can't tell anything about warranty, since I didn't need it so far (fortunately).

Thanks for the reply, the reason i asked is that i use to have a CT ET9000 with loopthrough and the insertion loss on that was around 15db compared to say a diseqc switch with about 3db loss.

 

[sonnetpete]

Personally I bought my F15 from Ireland (the aforementioned e-shop) one year ago. I can't tell anything about warranty, since I didn't need it so far (fortunately).

Same here, bought from Ireland and (again fortunately) haven't had to enforce the warranty. However the receiver isn't used very often, as I want to swap over to a C Band LNB on the motorised dish and experiment with that and the DrHD.

 

[Huevos]

All I can say CJ is you are crazy to consider getting rid of the Uno in favour of an F15. And when the next VIX image is released blind scan will be more tunable than any receiver that has ever existed.

 

[Vipersan]

Can't argue with Huevos logic ...
I wouldn't get rid of your Uno ....rather I would have both in the system .
The F15 scores mightily on gain ..the tuner is excellent ...but the Uno is possibly more versatile ..
So for me ..its a no brainer ..
Have Both ;)

Regarding reliability ..
My F15 is a year old also ...and is _never_ switched off ..and in use almost every day.
Superbly constructed and generates little heat ..
Hopefully I'll never need my waranty either.
rgds
VS

 

[digi247]

I own an Ultimo which has the same tuner as the Uno and sadly i think not only the Tuner but the whole software based blindscan function is garbage. My old TM5402HD wiped the floor with my Ultimo not only for tuner sensitivity but also the blindscan function

 

[Huevos]

I own an Ultimo which has the same tuner as the Uno and sadly i think not only the Tuner but the whole software based blindscan function is garbage. My old TM5402HD wiped the floor with my Ultimo not only for tuner sensitivity but also the blindscan function

Well it is not software blindscan, it is hardware. And like I said when the next VIX image is released you will have a very nice blindscan function that can scan a busy satellite and just pick out the feeds. It really is cool if you are into blindscan for feed hunting.

And yes the F15 is supposed to be pretty thorough in its blindscan but it takes forever to scan one satellite and by the time it has finished scanning the feed has already long since disappeared.

Also, E2 receivers can play a 4:2:2 feed (via the laptop), and the Uno and Ultimo can blindscan both DVB-S and DVB-S2 in Mpeg2 and Mpeg4.

And the E2 boxes have more customiseable control over the aerial system than other receivers.

 

[digi247]

The software side was what i was hinting at, The hardware may be AOK but the software written for it at the moment is next to useless, The chipset used in the Uno and Ultimo has been available in the Xtrend ET9000 for well over 18 months and no team yet has managed to get it right. I wont be holding my breath for the Vix team either.

 

[Huevos]

I wont be holding my breath for the Vix team either.

VIX is a great image if you want stability rather than alpha and beta releases every 5 minutes. But you need to be patient because proper testing takes time and VIX only releases images that have gone through thorough testing. That's not to say bugs can't slip through the net, but that every attempt has been made to catch them before code goes public.

And you can take my word for it on the Blindscan Plugin because it was me that edited it. Have a look at the screenshot below compared to the current Blindscan Plugin you have loaded on your boxes.

It is not just that screen that has changed either, there is a lot more going on in the background too. It works on the Ultimo, Uno, and ET9x00, and now it's C-band compatible.

 

[Captain Jack]

Yeah, the F15 is cheap enough to consider it being a second receiver to the Uno! I do love my Uno and the VIX image, which is solid for the most past. One thing I sorely miss, which I had on a crappy clone DM800, is the signal display in dB. Surely, it's a fairly easy conversion between dB and the quality readout in %? I would guess 30% SNR is when the signal is just about lockable but breaking up so that could be equal to 4.5-5dB...?

I don't suppose there are any sort of "spectrum analyser" plug-ins for the Uno just like that fancy thing on Dr HD?

 

[digi247]

The closest thing you will get to a signal meter for the Linux receivers is Krkadoni Enigma 2 Signal Meter either run it from your PC/Laptop or its a free downloadable Android App.

_http://www.krkadoni.com/log/

 

[Captain Jack]

The closest thing you will get to a signal meter for the Linux receivers is Krkadoni Enigma 2 Signal Meter either run it from your PC/Laptop or its a free downloadable Android App.

_http://www.krkadoni.com/log/

Oooooh! That is cool! Useful when you're on the roof and want to see the signal quality.

 

[sonnetpete]

CJ : It works very well, got it going with my VU+ and using the laptop was able to tweak up one of the multi sat LNB's without resorting to the meter. You might find the voice readout option a bit annoying though.....