Eutelsat 13C now called (Eutelsat 12 West G @ 12.5° W)

[solly]

Today track 12.99 e

 

[william-1]

Europe, Africa & Middle East - LyngSat

Moving to a new location maybe 5 west for back up with whatever fuel it has left maybe long enough for a few years in geostationary orbit..

 

[solly]

It repleace Eutelsat 5a?

 

[william-1]

EUTE HOT BIRD 13C (HB 9)

NORAD ID:	33459
LOCAL TIME:	18:50:27
UTC:	17:50:27
LATITUDE:	0.09
LONGITUDE:	13.06
ALTITUDE [km]:	35788.84
ALTITUDE [mi]:	22238.15
SPEED [km/s]:	3.07
SPEED [mi/s]:	1.91
AZIMUTH:	163.3 SSE
ELEVATION:	+29.9
RIGHT ASCENSION:	11h 46m 27s
DECLINATION:	-08° 09' 40''
Local Sidereal Time:	10h 49m 30s
The satellite is in day light​
SATELLITE PERIOD:	1437m
​

 

[william-1]

Hot Bird 13C (moving 0.7°W/day)​ 12.5° E​ ​ Ku​ 09.06.2023​

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[william-1]

Maybe going to join the damaged satellite @ 5 west Eutelsat 5 West B at 5.0°W with only half the solar array working to become Eutelsat 5 West C.

 

[solly]

it now 10.2 e now

 

[Marcus_21]

The TLEs are incorrect, it is now about at 5°E.

In addition to still having the on-station telemetry active (11703,40H), the unmodulated beacon 12500,00H is also active.


In theory it should also have telemetry active for emergency/LEOP operations, in the S-band (around 2264~2271 MHz, circular polarity).

 

[Analoguesat]

Hey guys how many times do I have to point out that one a satellite is being actively manoevered from one slot to another the TLE's are pretty much worthless from the point it starts moving to the moment it slots into it new home? Anything that is having thrusters fired breaks all the calculations. They are not real time calculations - they are extrapolations based on predicted orbital movement across the sky.

The simple fact that we have seen satellite positions "jump around" or "overshoot" a parking slot numerous times proves this is the case.

Aas @Marcus_21 can see the beacons then 5E is where it was, not where the TLEs were putting it!

 

[solly]

13c now near 8.8e

 

[EnoSat]

Do you have your location verified using telemetry like Marcus_21? Or did you just look at the calculated location on the Internet?

 

[Analoguesat]

13c now near 8.8e

No it isnt - how can it be at 8.8E when we have proof it was at 5E a couple of days ago? It will actually be near 2E or 3E today. ignore the TLEs until it gets to wherever its new home is - I suspect 5W is a likely slot.

 

[solly]

maybe n2yo wrong tle ?

 

[EnoSat]

n2yo,tle,... they use calculations to determine the position
if you want relevant telemetry data you must log in here - Eutelsat - CAS

 

[Marcus_21]

It is now at about 1°W, moving west.

 

[solly]

any web update position curect

 

[solly]

hotbird 13c now 3 west

 

[william-1]

EUTE HOT BIRD 13C (HB 9)

NORAD ID:	33459
LOCAL TIME:	08:56:49
UTC:	07:56:49
LATITUDE:	-0.09
LONGITUDE:	-4.88
ALTITUDE [km]:	35933.33
ALTITUDE [mi]:	22327.94
SPEED [km/s]:	3.07
SPEED [mi/s]:	1.91
AZIMUTH:	186.1 S
ELEVATION:	+30.8
RIGHT ASCENSION:	01h 03m 35s
DECLINATION:	-08° 36' 19''
Local Sidereal Time:	01h 25m 47s
The satellite is in day light​
SATELLITE PERIOD:	1445m
​

 

[william-1]

So where is Hotbird 13C heading ?
Here are my 3 best guesses,

1 = 5° west
2= 12.5°west
3= 24.5°west

 

[solly]

for now it curentley 5w