Eutelsat Hot Bird 13°E

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I have not tracked which transponders have been moved to the newly operational Hotbird. Therefore I am not sure to what extent the following transponders were active before the switch, all of which are also with S2X extension.
I did a full band scan on the H/V; only the upper band might still be active muxes that can't be locked due to the problematic, weak signal. At one point, I managed to lock 12728 H,27500,3/4, and see what the content is
How is the signal in your area, especially between 12600-12750 HV?

11194 V,22856,32/45,8PSK-Data,
11604 H,31428,8/9,16APSK-Data,
12743 V,22856,32/45,16APSK,0.05-Data
 

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wow it use high band data
any signal dvb 2x
 

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eutelsat test live signal with data stream on 1.5e before move to 13e
maybe check more tp will be use it
 

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It looks like the card from 12700 is handling some harmonics
12707 V = 11158 V (hypothetically)
12728 H = 11179 H
12743 V = 11194 V
 

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check tp 12731h
more tp will be come on 13f when arrive to 13e
like ebu it was tp for sky italy
 

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tp.66 - 12072.72 V
NID-318
TID-6800
BPK TV - 224.30.6.10
MotoGP - 224.30.6.1
 

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For some hours they have turned off the test carriers on the frequencies 11035 V, 12585 H and 12665 H.

For now the telemetries are still in linear polarity (On-Station).

Awaiting to starting to move to 13°E ....
 

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@EnoSat 12072 resev tp of sky it tery testing signal
 

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This transponder is not for skyIT
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C++:
Guess table from table id...
DSM-CC DATAGRAM-decoding....
Table_ID: 62 (0x3e)  [= DSM-CC - private data section  // DVB datagram]
section_syntax_indicator: 1 (0x01)
private_indicator: 0 (0x00)
reserved_1: 3 (0x03)
Section_length: 377 (0x0179)
MACaddrbyte/DevicdID 6: 7 (0x07)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 5: 100 (0x64)
reserved_2: 3 (0x03)
payload_scrambling_control: 0 (0x00)  [= unscrambled]
address_scrambling_control: 0 (0x00)  [= unscrambled]
LLC_SNAP_flag: 0 (0x00)
current_next_indicator: 1 (0x01)  [= valid now]
Section_number: 0 (0x00)
Last_Section_number: 0 (0x00)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 4: 100 (0x64)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 3: 94 (0x5e)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 2: 0 (0x00)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 1: 1 (0x01) => MAC-Address/DeviceID: 01:00:5e:64:64:07

IP_datagram_bytes:
    Version: 4 (0x04)
    IP header length: 5 (0x05)
    Type of service: 0 (0x00)
    Total length: 364 (0x016c)
    Identification: 7823 (0x1e8f)
    Reserved: 0 (0x00)
    DF: 1 (0x01)
    MF: 0 (0x00)
    Fragment offset: 0 (0x0000)
    Time to live: 128 (0x80)
    Protocol: 17 (0x11)  [= UDP]
    Header checksum: 28078 (0x6dae)
    Source address: 0a0a1ece [= 10.10.30.206]
    Destination address: e0646407 [= 224.100.100.7]

    UDP_datagram:
        Source port: 49584 (0xc1b0)
        Destination port: 5000 (0x1388)
        Length: 344 (0x0158)
        Checksum: 11335 (0x2c47)
        Data
              0000:  80 a1 dd a0 d9 d9 52 97  e0 64 64 07 01 01 6e d0   ......R..dd...n.
              0010:  6c 69 76 65 5f 63 61 74  61 6c 6f 67 2e 63 73 76   live_catalog.csv
              0020:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0030:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0040:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0050:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0060:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0070:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0080:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0090:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00a0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00b0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00c0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00d0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00e0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              00f0:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0100:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0110:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0120:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
              0130:  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 c0   ................
              0140:  00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00  05 00 00 00 64 af cd c4   ............d...

CRC: 3052188308 (0xb5ecb294)
==========================================================

Code:
PID:  1012 (0x03f4)

Guess table from table id...
DSM-CC DATAGRAM-decoding....
Table_ID: 62 (0x3e)  [= DSM-CC - private data section  // DVB datagram]
section_syntax_indicator: 1 (0x01)
private_indicator: 0 (0x00)
reserved_1: 3 (0x03)
Section_length: 509 (0x01fd)
MACaddrbyte/DevicdID 6: 7 (0x07)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 5: 100 (0x64)
reserved_2: 3 (0x03)
payload_scrambling_control: 0 (0x00)  [= unscrambled]
address_scrambling_control: 0 (0x00)  [= unscrambled]
LLC_SNAP_flag: 0 (0x00)
current_next_indicator: 1 (0x01)  [= valid now]
Section_number: 0 (0x00)
Last_Section_number: 0 (0x00)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 4: 100 (0x64)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 3: 94 (0x5e)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 2: 0 (0x00)
MACaddrbyte/DeviceID 1: 1 (0x01) => MAC-Address/DeviceID: 01:00:5e:64:64:07

IP_datagram_bytes:
    Version: 4 (0x04)
    IP header length: 5 (0x05)
    Type of service: 0 (0x00)
    Total length: 496 (0x01f0)
    Identification: 45197 (0xb08d)
    Reserved: 0 (0x00)
    DF: 1 (0x01)
    MF: 0 (0x00)
    Fragment offset: 0 (0x0000)
    Time to live: 128 (0x80)
    Protocol: 17 (0x11)  [= UDP]
    Header checksum: 56107 (0xdb2b)
    Source address: 0a0a1ece [= 10.10.30.206]
    Destination address: e0646407 [= 224.100.100.7]

    UDP_datagram:
        Source port: 49584 (0xc1b0)
        Destination port: 5000 (0x1388)
        Length: 476 (0x01dc)
        Checksum: 28714 (0x702a)
        Data
              0000:  80 21 dd 85 d9 7b a9 8f  e0 64 64 07 01 03 6e c2   .!...{...dd...n.
              0010:  00 00 00 00 75 6e 6b 6e  6f 77 6e 2f 62 70 6b 2d   ....unknown/bpk-
              0020:  74 76 2f 6f 72 70 30 31  2d 74 65 6e 30 31 32 2d   tv/orp01-ten012-
              0030:  63 68 30 31 30 2f 68 6c  73 2d 73 62 2f 69 6e 64   ch010/hls-sb/ind
              0040:  65 78 2e 6d 33 75 38 3b  6d 69 3d 32 32 34 2e 33   ex.m3u8;mi=224.3
              0050:  30 2e 36 2e 31 30 26 6d  70 3d 36 30 30 30 26 6d   0.6.10&mp=6000&m
              0060:  69 69 3d 30 26 6d 70 69  3d 31 26 73 74 3d 68 6c   ii=0&mpi=1&st=hl
              0070:  73 26 73 72 69 3d 6f 72  70 30 31 2d 74 65 6e 30   s&sri=orp01-ten0
              0080:  31 32 2d 63 68 30 31 30  5f 68 6c 73 5f 6e 69 70   12-ch010_hls_nip
              0090:  26 6d 69 61 3d 32 32 34  2e 33 30 2e 36 2e 31 30   &mia=224.30.6.10
              00a0:  26 6d 70 61 3d 36 30 32  30 26 6d 69 69 61 3d 30   &mpa=6020&miia=0
              00b0:  26 6d 70 69 61 3d 31 26  6d 69 64 3d 32 32 34 2e   &mpia=1&mid=224.
              00c0:  33 30 2e 36 2e 31 30 26  6d 70 64 3d 36 30 34 30   30.6.10&mpd=6040
              00d0:  26 6d 69 69 64 3d 30 26  6d 70 69 64 3d 31 26 70   &miid=0&mpid=1&p
              00e0:  6c 61 76 3d 31 26 72 74  6f 3d 36 30 0a 75 6e 6b   lav=1&rto=60.unk
              00f0:  6e 6f 77 6e 2f 31 31 39  31 34 2f 46 48 44 2f 6d   nown/11914/FHD/m
              0100:  6f 74 6f 67 70 2f 6d 61  73 74 65 72 2e 6d 33 75   otogp/master.m3u
              0110:  38 3b 6d 69 3d 32 32 34  2e 33 30 2e 36 2e 31 26   8;mi=224.30.6.1&
              0120:  6d 70 3d 36 30 30 30 26  6d 69 69 3d 30 26 6d 70   mp=6000&mii=0&mp
              0130:  69 3d 31 26 73 74 3d 68  6c 73 26 73 72 69 3d 6f   i=1&st=hls&sri=o
              0140:  72 70 30 31 2d 74 65 6e  30 31 32 2d 63 68 30 30   rp01-ten012-ch00
              0150:  31 2d 68 6c 73 5f 6e 69  70 26 6d 69 61 3d 32 32   1-hls_nip&mia=22
              0160:  34 2e 33 30 2e 36 2e 31  26 6d 70 61 3d 36 30 32   4.30.6.1&mpa=602
              0170:  30 26 6d 69 69 61 3d 30  26 6d 70 69 61 3d 31 26   0&miia=0&mpia=1&
              0180:  6d 69 64 3d 32 32 34 2e  33 30 2e 36 2e 31 26 6d   mid=224.30.6.1&m
              0190:  70 64 3d 36 30 34 30 26  6d 69 69 64 3d 30 26 6d   pd=6040&miid=0&m
              01a0:  70 69 64 3d 31 26 73 73  75 3d 75 73 26 73 6b 61   pid=1&ssu=us&ska
              01b0:  3d 32 30 26 70 6c 61 76  3d 31 2c 32 2c 33 2c 34   =20&plav=1,2,3,4
              01c0:  2c 35 2c 36 2c 37 26 70  6c 61 61 3d 31 2c 32 2c   ,5,6,7&plaa=1,2,
              01d0:  33 2c 34 0a                                        3,4.

CRC: 1292221083 (0x4d05ba9b)
 
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12072 V,29900,5/6-10 PoC, prov. Eutelsat
Pid 1012: 224.30.6.10
 

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it data service on test
 

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12072 V,29900,5/6-10 PoC, prov. Eutelsat
Pid 1012: 224.30.6.10
I have now discovered that the IP stream on 12072 V is a Eutelsat promo and how to view this stream under Linux.
It should be taken into account if there will be more streams activated. Notice to those interested.
 

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that suprise eutelsat upload video stream on 1.4e before move final location
 

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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that suprise eutelsat upload video stream on 1.4e before move final location
I need to clarify: what I have received, including this mux-12072 E, is from 13.0E, not another (tested) position. And it's no coincidence that I posted the Hotbird spectrum above.
With apologies, if I have the wrong topic; move it to the right place.
 

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I Demo
11470.76 V
NID-318
TID-1400
France 24 - 224.30.3.11:6000
Eutelsat Africa 7E - 224.30.3.12:6000
Eutelsat America 65W - 224.30.3.13:6000
Arianespace - 224.30.3.14:6000
Eutelsat Asia 172E - 224.30.3.15:6000
Eutelsat America 117W - 224.30.3.16:6000
Meridian - 224.30.3.19:6000
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NIP Demo
10949.34 V
NID-318
TID-12200
224.31.5.1.50002 - A1/HD
224.31.5.1.50003 - A1/SD
224.31.5.1.50004 - A1/UHD
224.31.5.1.50005 - A1/audio
224.31.5.1.50006 - B1/HD
224.31.5.1.50007 - B1/SD
224.31.5.1.50008 - B1/audio
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DVB-IP None of my satellite boxes will produce anything sensible from 12072V 29900 2/3 QPSK mode=CCM on 13E BUT my HD Ranger found 4 TV channels and 6 Radio channels.

TV
La7d HD SID=73
La7 HD SID=79
ZONA DAZN 1 SID=801
ZONA DAZN 2 SID=802

RADIO
Radio 101 SID=101
RMC SID=102
Virgin Radio SID=104
Radio 105 SID=105
Radio SUBASIO SID=106
Radiolina SID=110


The TV stations are all scrambled but all the radios work!.
 

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That's 11919 V
screenshot_20230817180642.jpg
12073V is
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11919-10600=1319 MHz
12073-10750=1323 MHz
Didn't you have LOF selected at 10750 MHz ?
 
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it use transponder mediaset 11919 and 12072
 

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Mediaset does not use the 12072V transponder.
The Proof of Concept project is intended for another Eutelsat partners.
 

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how see sid all channel 11919v
 
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