Ideas on installation

[ash213]

moved into a different house

old set up had a 80cm motorised dish connected to side of garage.

need the dish on the front of my property, pic attatched, just wondered if you guys could think of best place? would the chimney be ok? maybe on a pole connected to it?

i have a satellite installer coming at some point this week to set it up but i would like to give him a heads up on where to put it , so any ideas would be great, thank you

by the way, the dish in the pic on the brick wall is for my house, standard sky dish, pointing at 28e

cheers

 

[Robbo]

Is there anywhere in the back garden you can put it,maybe on a pole planted in the ground? As you only really have the right hand vertical brick pillar to put it on the front, and it would have to go above the gutter, as the tiles can't be fixed to.
is the back of the house the same?

It can't be put on the chimney your side as that would break planning regs,and also an 80cm on the chimney may be too large.

 

[A nonymous]

That doesn't look good in all honesty. I wouldn't put an 80cm on a chimney that small for fear that the chimney could in theory be ripped off in a good gust of wind, plus as Robbo stated it breaks planning regs. ( Forgot about that one )

The other issue you have is the tiles on the front. You cant fix T & Ks to tiles. They have to be removed, the t & Ks installed and then the tiles are put back, provided theres a good fixing underneath the tiles.. Maybe an option as long as you own the house. If its rented the landlord probably won't go for that.

If you want a good sweep, the dish is going to have to be lolly popped over the roof to get the desired result. In theory if you did this there would be nothing stopping you putting the dish on the rear of the property, which would be out of the way

Beaten by Robbo

 

[ash213]

Hi. Girlfriend won't let me have it on back of house at that os the main entrance to the house. Weird set up to be honest. Directly in front of the house is a field for horse esquestrian training....

So do you think t&k on the wall where the current sat dish is? Above that? Then a pole reaching up above the house etc?

Cheers

 

[A nonymous]

What!!!! you mean you've asked your girlfriend

The outcrop of brick is in my opinion too small for a dish sticking up over the roof. It would have to go under the tiles?

I certainly wouldn't mount a dish over the roof on such a small outcrop of bricks.

Nano

 

[mariust5]

How about on the wall with the door on , on the left , just above the flat roof , with t&k's and strong pole .
Easy access , but you won't see further than 1w i think maybe 5w .

If it was my house i would mount it on the brick wall above the sky dish , long scaffolding pole and 3 brackets , 2 K's and 1 T .
But than again if was my house i wouldn't ask my wife where to put the dish

Just an idea .

 

[Robbo]

Putting it on the left hand brick pillar will mean the dish encroaching on neighbours property. The right had pillar "lolly popped" as nano described should work ok, as long as you can managed to get the t+k fixed alright. It's tight though, as the bolts dont want to be close to the brick edge, otherwise the sides will fall off the edge of the brick.
You might be able to get away with it if you put the side bolts in at a 45 degree angle, and make sure you put a bolt in the top centre of the k.

 

[A nonymous]

I would investigate whats under the tiles myself. I've done a few installs like yours.

You just remove the tiles and if there is brick or good solid concrete underneath it you stick the brackets up and then with the use of an angle grinder you cut the tiles to fit round the T & Ks when you refit them.

You then just stick mastic round to fill n the gaps

Its a much safer bet than using the outcrop of bricks. If your using 18" T & Ks or larger i don't think your going to have enough brick there to play with anyway.

Nano

 

[rolfw]

Don't think there's any way that you'll be able to securely mount T&Ks on the side brick column and it's unlikely that there'll be anything substantial under the tiles. your only other possibility is a through roof mount, fairly easy on those tiles and easy to put the tile back when you move out.

_http://www.satelliteandaerialsupplies.com/product/?s=roof-tile

 

[ash213]

thank you for all the suggestions so far.
this is depressing as i really want my set up!
the satellite installer says he works for a company but does work for others when he finishes everyday at 4pm.....hopefully he is experienced enough to assist with this job!

anyway here is a pic of the rear of the property...any ideas here? sorry for sounding like a girl when i said my girlfriend doesnt want it on the back of the house its just she hates the dish, hates football, hates my telly, hates all this crap!!!! damn women.

 

[Mickha]

Show your girlfriend some pictures of the Penta 85cm dish, not only do these look good, they perform well, and can blend in so you can hardly notice them. Another alternative is a clear dish.

 

[sonnetpete]

Going back to your first picture, how wide is the roof on your porch (I assume this is the GF friendly side of the house)? Could you fit a non penetrating roof mount on there? Or if not maybe a tripod or patio/ground mount. I reckon you could probably get the arc round to 1°W from there.

 

[ash213]

Show your girlfriend some pictures of the Penta 85cm dish, not only do these look good, they perform well, and can blend in so you can hardly notice them. Another alternative is a clear dish.

i have a mesh dish which looks good IMHO.

anyways. im not gonna buy a new dish, juss keep current one.

any ideas on rear of property? cheers

 

[ash213]

Going back to your first picture, how wide is the roof on your porch (I assume this is the GF friendly side of the house)? Could you fit a non penetrating roof mount on there? Or if not maybe a tripod or patio/ground mount. I reckon you could probably get the arc round to 1°W from there.

hi

its probably 1m x 2m

ideally satellites i need are 28e, 19e, 13e, 7e, 4.8e, 1w, 7w if possible.

and that would do me.

let me know about the porch roof but tbf i dont think the daft cow will even like it on there, if anything attatched to the house would be best.
cheers

 

[rolfw]

How about this, should get you around to 28.2 East and then a good Western view.

The only way you can put it on the house is between the two windows, as anywhere else will put the dish over the neighbour's house, but the central brickwork is not strong enough for an above gutter dish, particulaly if you want something big enough to pull in 5E.

Still reckon a through roof mount is the best idea.

by the way, is that an old BSB Squarial on the chimney?

 

[ash213]

How about this, should get you around to 28.2 East and then a good Western view.

The only way you can put it on the house is between the two windows, as anywhere else will put the dish over the neighbour's house, but the central brickwork is not strong enough for an above gutter dish, particulaly if you want something big enough to pull in 5E.

Still reckon a through roof mount is the best idea.

by the way, is that an old BSB Squarial on the chimney?

hi, yes it looks like it is an BSB Squarial. is it worth anything?

would a good satellite engineer know how to do a through roof mount? is it straight forward? if not i might just put the dish on the back of the house like where you have it on that image. althought will it be high enough to pick up the sats? wont the houses be in the way ,etc?

cheers

 

[rolfw]

Not really worth anything, but we have a thread in the forum for pictures of them.

A good installer should know how to do one, but even if he hasn't done one, it is not too difficult.

 

[ash213]

The installer just came and said it's fine to install on brick work above the porch. T brackets and a pole over hanging the guttering. Need to find a scaffold pipe though. Where from?

Also he said the right hand brick work belongs to my house but the left hand side is next doors....which is where sky installed my mini dish on Saturday....thoughts???

 

[aceb]

The installer just came and said it's fine to install on brick work above the porch. T brackets and a pole over hanging the guttering. Need to find a scaffold pipe though. Where from?

Also he said the right hand brick work belongs to my house but the left hand side is next doors....which is where sky installed my mini dish on Saturday....thoughts???

Have you tried your local scaffold firm, ours will sell just about everything they own and used poles are a £ a foot. I'd be a little bit concerned about drilling so close to the edge of the bricks though, doubt it would take a lot of compression from a decent fixing before it cracked or broke the mortar. Not sure about the right hand thing, that maybe the convention when it comes to fences and hedges etc but I'd check your deeds to be sure. If you fix an 80cm dish up there some of it will be overhanging next door so you'll need to speak to them before it goes up.

 

[rolfw]

Still dubious about the upper floor brickwork and a dish above the gutter, that's a lot of potential leverage, I think he's confusing rules on Fence ownership regarding the side walls.