you are correct though ricewind, aurora is also on pas2, currently avalable to those with scientific atlanta stb's. these boxes are generally used by thoe in remote areas ie aboriginal commuities etc that retransmit the sig in their local area fir joe blow to pick up with rabbit ears. however, beware the ebay buyer, optus is dropping aurora from pas 2 in sept this year, making all those scientific atlanta boxes obsolete. also anyone with these boxes in remote areas generaly have andrews 1.2 or 1.5 dishes to go with, however these can not be fitted with a universal or 11gig lnbf (needed for Ka on c1) without modification, so many of these will become available for nix late this year too!! yay!