Ref the issues with 2 dishes in my post #39:
Took advantage of today's warm weather and "sorted" the problems with the 2 dishes, and as predicted:
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Zone 1 - the F-connector on the switch end of the cable from the LNB had become slightly "unscrewed" ->screwing it further on got the strong 19E channels back, and then I slightly tweaked the elevation to improve it further.
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TD88 - very slightly reduced the elevation leading to a substantial increase in signal.
"Jobs done"
(at least until the "next time")
PS: Turns out that the LNB on the Zone 1 is the original - so it's still working after 23 yrs
PPS: I tried out that LIDL "sat bleeper" that I got last year, but almost immediately discarded it due to the infuriating "noises" and flickering needle - went back to the much repaired "DSM10" LED meter that I got from SMS in Camberly 20 yrs ago as that is much more "user-friendly"