Advice Needed Trying to find Astra 28.2 and configure dish

[archive10]

Ah ha. Ok so even though my box says I'm on the EUTELSAT @ 35.9 I'm seeing all the channels on the Europe system on the link you gave me. Does that mean I'm actually on Astra 28.2?

Yes, you're most likely looking at 28.2E.
The box has no idea of where your dish is pointing.
It can only display the channel list of where it *thinks* it's pointing.
And it's probably where you last chose a frequency list - 35.9.
So it will say "35.9", but in reality it could be pointing at 30W for all it cared.
It's a classic mistake to trust the info shown by the the box.
You need to choose a channel on the European beam of 28.2E (see flysat or lyngsat), then adjust until you maximise strength and C/N ratio.
And of course check that your are receiving that channels.
Tbe dish should the be pointing the right way, and you can consider checking the non European-beam channels.

 

[Tururu]

I remember some tests from Tarragona (100Km => Nonaspe Signal) with antenna of 180cm of primary focus with LNB Invacom C120 and nothing of anything for the beam UK, the tests realized an installer with equipment of measurement in the middle of the street Amount) and nothing (nones) when they began to migrate the channels to the UK beam.

With a petal antenna 240cm => 180cm real performance, with an LNB for offset antennas that does not see the whole antenna, you can only tune tp's for Europe, nothing more (surely).
That you tune 26ºE channels, it is normal, with 50-60cm of antenna you have enough that satelite (the beam points to another zone).
As colleagues indicate, adjust the antenna to 28'xºE by tuning channels of the European beam, such as ....
TVC News +1 11464 H 22000 5/6
TRT World 11479 V 22000 5/6
To compare, mount the Maxview antenna 80x58cm with the same LNB Revez (0'1d.B, surely tune the channels commented with the same level of signal, if so, bad symptom, says much of the performance Antena 240 petalos + LNB Offset (in Primary focus antenna)

Then if you want, already located the position, you can play to search channels of the UK beam.
TruTV + 1 11307 V 27500 2/3 (plus signal)
E4 10729 V 22000 5/6.
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Recuerdo unas pruebas desde Tarragona (100Km =>Nonaspe Señal) con antena de 180cm de foco primarion con LNB Invacom C120 y nada de nada para el haz UK, las pruebas las realizo un instalador con equipos de medida en medio de la calle (la que monto) y nada (nones) cuando empezaron a migrar los canales al haz UK.

Con una antena de petalos 240cm => ni 180cm rendimiento real, con un LNB para antenas offset que no ve toda la antena, solo podras sintonizar los tp's para Europa, nada mas (seguramente).
Que sintonices canales de 26ºE, es normal, con 50-60cm de antena tienes suficiente ese satelite (el haz apunta a otra zona).
Como indican los compañeros, ajusta la antena a 28'xºE sintonizando canales del haz Europeo, como ....
TVC News +1 11464 H 22000 5/6
TRT World 11479 V 22000 5/6
Para comparar, monta la antena Maxview 80x58cm con el mismo LNB Revez (0'1d.B, seguramente sintonizaras los canales comentados con el mismo nivel de señal, si es asi, mal sintoma, dice mucho del rendimiento Antena 240 petalos + LNB Offset (en antena foco primario)

Luego si quieres, ya localizada la posicion, puedes jugar a buscar canales del haz UK.
TruTV+1 11307 V 27500 2/3 (mas señal)
E4 10729 V 22000 5/6.

 

[joddle]

I know you won't like this but I tried using one of those cheap dishes many years ago in Valencia when the signals for UK TV were very much weaker than they are today in Spain - however using an Invacom C120 LNB and matching feed-horn I did manage to get most Freesat channels in the day although always lost most at night. I was forever having to readjust the dish after every high wind as they are so flimsy they warp with almost nothing. There is definitely an art to setting them up (cross wires across the dish helps) but even after careful aligning and skew setting they soon go out of tune. They are just too weak physically and the mounts are very difficult to get rock steady and the focus arms not good enough to give an accurate point to the centre (check by pacing a torch in the LNB holder and see if it focusses in the centre - when first set up mine did not) . In the end a gale put paid to the dish and folded it completely in half so I had no choice but to replace it - which I did with a medium cost spun 2.4 from the eastern block. Immediately I had 24/7 coverage - it was a doddle to align and over the past 10 years had never been realigned. Of course now with the newer sats the size is really overkill - I get almost 100% SQ and SS on even the cheapest of receivers and need an attenuator on sensitive boxes. Just an hour to the south in Javea am able to get reliable reception from a good 1.2 PF. If I had to do it all again I most certainly would not even consider one of the petalised dishes - they are simply too much trouble for too little performance. If advising anyone I would say don't just go for the biggest but go for the best quality with the smallest size which will do the job. I know now I could get everything on something much smaller s0 so long it is of a good quality.

 

[joddle]

I know you won't like this but I tried using one of those cheap dishes many years ago in Valencia when the signals for UK TV were very much weaker than they are today in Spain - however using an Invacom C120 LNB and matching feed-horn I did manage to get most Freesat channels in the day although always lost most at night. I was forever having to readjust the dish after every high wind as they are so flimsy they warp with almost nothing. There is definitely an art to setting them up (cross wires across the dish helps) but even after careful aligning and skew setting they soon go out of tune. They are just too weak physically and the mounts are very difficult to get rock steady and the focus arms not good enough to give an accurate point to the centre (check by pacing a torch in the LNB holder and see if it focusses in the centre - when first set up mine did not) . In the end a gale put paid to the dish and folded it completely in half so I had no choice but to replace it - which I did with a medium cost spun 2.4 from the eastern block. Immediately I had 24/7 coverage - it was a doddle to align and over the past 10 years had never been realigned. Of course now with the newer sats the size is really overkill - I get almost 100% SQ and SS on even the cheapest of receivers and need an attenuator on sensitive boxes. Just an hour to the south in Javea am able to get reliable reception from a good 1.2 PF. If I had to do it all again I most certainly would not even consider one of the petalised dishes - they are simply too much trouble for too little performance. If advising anyone I would say don't just go for the biggest but go for the best quality with the smallest size which will do the job. I know now I could get everything on something much smaller s0 so long it is of a good quality.

Just to add - the dishes were branded as Fortecstar - mine was identical to the one shown the ebay advert. When it arrived even putting it together was a pain in the butt as the holes did not exactly all line up and took some jiggling to get them to all go in. Also the bolts are woefully inadequate and really required decent washers behind both sides to ensure a good pulling together of the petal surfaces. Then when you look at the completed dish it is easy to see by eye it's not a perfect surface and rises slightly at each seam and drops back in the centre of each petal. Running a hand over the surface makes it even more obvious as you can feel the profile go up and down. As stated earlier the LNB arms need tweaking to get the LNB focused at the centre of the dish and its almost impossible to get the whole dish to have a uniform edge - i.e. if you set it facedown on a flat floor all the edge should be in contact with the ground - -it took a lot of untightening pushing and retightening of the petals to get even that basic requirement sorted. When you consider all these issues its easy to see why these dishes do not perform nearly as well as the solid or spun versions.