VU+ DUO 4K SE : can this have two tuners in it? DVB-S2X + DVB-T2 - Does it have CI+ slot? Can it do Multistream?

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I would wish to bring the Vantage 8000 here out of retirement, the front panel is superb and the picture quality was somewhat better than receivers of the era. It was a slow machine though and awkward menus.
I actually have a new one too. Not much use for it but I have a friend who wants to get German channels on Astra at 19 E so maybe he will get it.
 

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Ok I am sold on the Duo 4k se.
I spent days reading about blind scan on FBC tuners and this looks like a dead-end for me.

I will be gutted ( and my son will get angry) if his favourite channels cannot be found. My 2019 26" Philips TV seems to do a blind scan of the TPs remarkably well. Takes 30 mins per LNB.

The Octogon SF8008 (1Gbps NIC) and the Edison MIO+ MS (100Mbps NIC) are the choices.

Makes me wonder if I can use oscam for a Fransat card in an Edison , but activate it in a TV with the Fransat CAM. Or I am lucky and get the multistream on my 60cm dish from 5W and won't need a card for a few years.

The Edison MIO+ 4K S2X is not an FBC tuner :-)

Is this a better idea?
 
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I just bought an Edison Mio+ 4k MS from amazon. Will take a week to get here, which is unusual for amazon.


Next step need an image to install.

I wish to:

- modify the scan steps in MHz, and the symbol rate interval. By increments of 0.25 Mhz would be excellent.

- see if I can get a Fransat PC7 activated card working. Does oscam do this or is there a better option?
 
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I just bought an Edison Mio+ 4k MS from amazon. Will take a week to get here, which is unusual for amazon.


Next step need an image to install.

I wish to:

- modify the scan steps in MHz, and the symbol rate interval. By increments of 0.25 Mhz would be excellent.

- see if I can get a Fransat PC7 activated card working. Does oscam do this or is there a better option?
I shall start a new thread for this.
 

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Just a heads up, you will not find any E2 receiver that officially supports Ci+ for the simple fact that Ci+ will not licence any E2 equipment.

Any box you buy will either require an image with "borrowed" Ci+ licence files included in the image (Vti) or you will need to install the Ci+ helper files package for whichever image you choose to use.

As for blindscan, it doesn't work on any FBC tuner.
 

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Just a heads up, you will not find any E2 receiver that officially supports Ci+ for the simple fact that Ci+ will not licence any E2 equipment.

Any box you buy will either require an image with "borrowed" Ci+ licence files included in the image (Vti) or you will need to install the Ci+ helper files package for whichever image you choose to use.

As for blindscan, it doesn't work on any FBC tuner.
Hi,
Last night I bought an Edison instead of the VU+ Dio 4k, because it was not a FBC tuner. Gives me blind scan.
Do you know if OpenVix has the borrowed CI+ licence files, or is this part of the oscam plugin?
 

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Hi,
Last night I bought an Edison instead of the VU+ Dio 4k, because it was not a FBC tuner. Gives me blind scan.
Do you know if OpenVix has the borrowed CI+ licence files, or is this part of the oscam plugin?
No it's not part of oscam plugin.

You will need to do a search as no idea if openvix has the ci+helperfiles
 

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It is possible to insert a CI plugin into each enigma, but since EDISION does not have a CI slot, it is useless.
The plugin is used only because of the CAM, not because of the card.
 

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Hi,

I will never use FBC - it uses a unicable and I have a 4 x LNBs into a switch.

Their web site was pretty unclear about the CI or CI+ slots. Fransat dropped CI and moved to CI+ a while ago.

Same for the multistream.

It's vague :(
You don't need a unicable LNB to take advantage of FBC. It is true that without a unicable LNB you are limited but even with a universal LNB You can record channels from up to 4 different transponders as long as they are all the same band and polarity on one wired input.

I believe this is correct. Someone more knowledgeable will be able to confirm or dispute but I think I am correct. If tuners B, C, and D are connected to tuner A tuners B to D will mirror the same band and polarity. For example if you record for example BBC 1 North East HD that is low band horizontal you can record ITV1 Tyne Tees on tuner B, Channel 5 HD on tuner C, and CNN HD on tuner D plus any other channels from those 4 transponders on Astra 2 as long as your recording device is capable of keeping up with the data transfer.
 

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I don't record anything. I just channel hop each evening :)

I got an Edision mio 4k plus in the end.
 

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What I said in post 30 isn't true so please ignore. You need an unicable LNB or multiswitch when using a wideband or quartto LNB for FBC.
 

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Hi,
Thanks for correcting your earlier post.
 

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Hi, A VU+ DUO 4K SE could be good.

Can it get MultiStream?
Can it does blind scan?
Can this have two tuners in it? DVB-S2X + DVB-T2
Does it have a CI+ slot? *

* The manual lists CI slots, but not CI+ slots, which is surprising.
Code:
https://www.vuplus.de/_files/ugd/46aad9_ae7c35bb6e7a4b4f8b499edafdbc9e5f.pdf

If it can tick these boxes then I am happy.

For info, I have 4 x LNBs ( 28.2e 19.2e 13e 5w)

Any help most appreciated.
I have this receiver. It has 2 tuner slots. You can have 2 dvb-s2x cards or 1 dvb-s2x card and 1 dvb-t2 card or 1 dvb-c card or 2 dvb-t2 cards or 2 dvb-c cards.

It does have ci slot and cam slots.
 

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Hi,
Thanks for correcting your earlier post.
I only know this because I just installed this receiver and discovered the other tuners only work with unicable. I had to buy a new dish and unicable lnb off eBay.
 

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With VU+ xxx 4K the MultiStreaming channels with PLS is a software patch to these tuners, it does not matter if you have a DVB-S2X Version1 or V2 tuner (they are similar), the good thing is that with the patch they released, they removed the limitation to SR2000 and now these tuners can go down to SR 1600 well and somewhat lower if you add the channel from a channel list, put the channel and wait 2-5 seconds, with SR1481 in Eutelsat 21.6ºE it takes 30 seconds to open the channel, SR1300 nothing at all.

The buts....
VU+DUO2, the tuner does not differentiate DVB-S with DVB-S2, the FEC does not matter in general, if you have more than 4 tuners (including USB-DTT) it does not work.
VU+Solo4K, the blind scan as it arrives, has it from VU+, but it doesn't work, the images from other devices remove it.
VU+Zero4K, blind scan of the high band does not emit the tone for the LNB to go to high band, zero channels found. VU+Ultimo4K, the blind scan as it arrives, has it from VU+, but it doesn't work, the images from other devices remove it.

Here I add the Gigablue with FBC tuner, from the factory it even starts the blind search, but with zero channels, when updating to more modern versions from the factory, it already works worse/it freezes and the option disappears.

In general, it is seen that FBC tuners do not work with blind search, yes I already know that they sell it (they put it as a sales argument, but none), I have the 3 types of VU+ FBC tuners, remember that the last DVB-S2X V2 has the external connectors closer together and in some channels, the signal and quality indication may be missing depending on the channel you put on, as in VU+ the error indicator does not work, it is always zero, comparing the noise in the image (pixelation), It seems that the V2 tuenr beats the V1 by a very small difference.

Tested the Gigablue 4K with FBC tuner (both models).
I forget, using normal LNB, manual or satellite search using the transponder/frequency database (satellites.xml file), works well, but if you use unicable LNB, it will not find channels, the response is very slow, between It asks for a tp and the LNB sends it to it, it jumps to another tp, finding out of 1300 channels, only 300 and then it says that it did not find channels, perform several tests increasing the response times of the unicable LNB in the configuration (unicable. xml) without positive results. I have configured it to show errors when zapping between channels using unicable LNB to see, but I recommend that it not show it, it usually takes 1 to 3 seconds to change the channel, with the fast channel change option (FCC) you do not have this problem, but it is better to have 8 tuners configured in the program, in my case with 4 it almost never hits.
Then as you use them to record channels, you run out of tuners.
Regarding the normal VU+ tuner that can be DTT or cable, internally the antenna connection in the 2 double/2 tuners is one, they allow you to put DTT and cable, but when trying to save the second configuration it gives errors/blue screen similar to Windows, I have 2 decos and the image does not matter with the double tuners, as they support up to 4 USB-TDT tuners, one option is to use the old Mygica T230C, supported by driver, or the new MygicaT230C, all USB-TDT2/cable and configure for cable ( It does not work 100% due to the drivers for Enigma2, only 50% but they work).

From VU+, the single and double DTT/DTT2 and Cable have been tested for years, the best in terms of sensitivity is the single (1 tuner) DTT2/cable that has the blue plate (in this case the connectors are inverted, the input signal is from below).

The Octagon SF8008 4K Twin, at the moment the best for blind search, but.

It no longer blocks when finding 16APSK channels but I see that with the changes in Astra 19'2ºE that this month December 2023, I see that it is bundled with the DVB-S 10758 V 22000 5/6 QPSK that I change to DVB-S2 10758 V 22000 2/3 8PSK, it sees them in blind search as DVB-S, and sees them perfectly with its corresponding clear subscription, if I manually search in DVB-S2 and delete what it already has, perfect, as I say, it gets complicated, I have to put the latest versions so what happens.

Here's a note, FBC tuners do not allow errors with any data to search for channels manually, be careful that the automatic option for some parameters does not work well.

The Octagon SF8008, as indicated by colleagues, does not have an IC, the side card reader works with seca and also with nagra.
A note, the SF8008 mini version is almost the same guts/chip of the combo model (SAT-TDT) without the electronic part on the front, notice that the semi-transparent plastic case dissipates heat worse (but the plastic is cold ) than the metal box of the big ones.

The SF8008 sat tuner is Si2166D (DVB-S2X)
The Edision OS MIO 4K and its more modern version Edison OS MIO+ 4K, the tuner is Si6261 DVB-S2X, it is more deaf than the octagon, I was able to evaluate the Edision OS MIO 4K with the same antenna and another companion, the MIO+ 4K.
With the channel fished from another receiver, the list loaded, SR1481 costs you and SR 1300 is nothing.
Carrying out tests on Eutelsat10A at 10ºEast where we have 11011 V 1200 3/5 DVB-S2/QPSK, Dzair TV.
You tune it, but you can't see it, you open the channels, but you can't see it due to the pixelation it has.
The Octagon without problems.
Regarding the modification of the steps to scan in these receivers, it is not worth it in these receivers, they have a bandwidth of 4Mhz, to tune 2 channels at less than 2Mhz you have to look for the first -4Mhz and the second +4Mhz, yes You have 3 frequencies, only 2 right. Testing 1 year ago on Eutelsat 8 West B at 8.0° West (W).

Tenemos 2 TP/Frecuencias.
12620 V SR890 DVB-S, esta sin problemas, salen canales de radio.
12621 V SR468 DVB-S2, esta se sintoniza sin problemas, pero al buscar canales, no encuentra nada, ojo que se tira 3 veces mas buscando, pero luego no muestra nada.

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With normal LNB, as many channels as have the 8 Tp/frequencies of the same band, polarity and satellite.
With a single LNB and an FBC tuner, as many channels as the 8 Tp/frequencies of the satellites that are connected to the tuners have, 16-18 recordings to the hard drive, the receiver is slow but works well.
With FBC tuner, you can use an external port A and connect a single cable, serving tuner B (through internal loop) and also the internal CDEFGH tuners.
With 2 FBC boards, you need an external 2-output splitter/distributor with power supply to provide service/signal to the second board, to tuner I (J internal connection/loop).

The tested mixed unicable LNBs of 4/8/16/24 unicable and normal 2/3 outputs depending on the model.
Since I like to test decos with FBC tuners, to see if they hold up to recordings on 2.5" 500GB and 5400rpm disks (GigaBlue 4K/Qviart linux3 4K), they all held up to 8 TP's and 16 granations.
If you can, it is more comfortable to run a second cable to another satellite and be able to have 4 tuners for each satellite, with the DiSEqC you only have 4 active tuners, losing the other satellite.

They sell the Inverto programmer and tools were also implemented from the Enigma2 receiver to carry out this programming more cheaply with commands, remember that unicable LNBs are more expensive and more deaf than normal ones (up to 0.7dB noise figure), yes It's no problem, perfect, I downloaded a cable for each satellite.
Summary: 2 satellites, up to 4 satellites and distribute the 32 communication SCRs available in the programmable single cable LNBs, then they are joined using a splitter of 2 (satellites) or 4 (satellites) for this reason a little more loss, lower a cable to the receiver.
In the receiver, the tuners are programmed with the satellites and the SCRs that that satellite has.

VU+DUO4K SE.- Supports 2 FBC, SAT/DTT/Cable tuners, if they are sat and tdt, they have a specific position, they cannot be exchanged.
IC and card readers, 2'5" larger disk size in cady (<10mm which is the standard in 2'5").

VU+Ultimo4K (a bit less powerful), supports 3 tuners.
2 FBC tuners, SAT/DTT/Cable 1 normal tuner, single/double satellite, single DTT/cable.
2'5" or 3'5" internal hard drive, the last verified 12TB, has 2 ICs and 2 card readers.
In general, these VU+ decos support 4 tuners (vtuner from 0 to 4) to install USB tuners, depending on the image installed, the USB-DTT/cable are installed automatically, older models have to load general drivers.

Note: I would swear that with Multistreaming you sometimes get involved with the PLS data, but using channel lists from a partner, if you entered the data when searching for the channel or the data is correctly placed in the satellites.xml file, these channels work fine.

Apologies for the translation and being late.:-doh
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Con VU+ xxx 4K los canales MultiStreaming con PLS es un parche por software a estos sintonizadores, no importa que tengas un sintonizadorr DVB-S2X Version1 o V2 (van similares), los bueno es que con el parche que reliazaron, quitaron la limitacion a SR2000 y ahora pueden bajar estos tuner hasta SR 1600 bien y algo mas bajo si le añades el canal desde una lista de canales, pones el canal y esperas 2-5 segundos, con SR1481 en Eutelsat 21.6ºE le cuesta 30 segundos abrir el canal, SR1300 nada de nada.

Los peros ....
VU+DUO2, el tuner no diferencia DVB-S con DVB-S2, el FEC le da igual en general, si tienes mas de 4 tuner (incluidos usb-tdt) no funciona.
VU+Solo4K, el escaneo ciego segun llega, lo tiene de VU+, pero no funciona, las imagenes de otros equipos lo quitan.
VU+Zero4K, el escaneo ciego de la banda alta no emite el tono para que el LNB pase a banda alta, encontrados cero canales.
VU+Ultimo4K, el escaneo ciego segun llega, lo tiene de VU+, pero no funciona, las imagenes de otros equipos lo quitan.
Aquí añado los Gigablue con sintonizador FBC, de fabrica incluso arranca la busqueda ciega, pero cero canales, al actualizar a versiones mas modernas de fabrica, ya funciona peor/se queda frito y desaparece la opcion.
En general, esta visto que los sintonizadores FBC no funcionan con busqueda ciega, si ya se que lo venden (lo pone como argumento de venta, pero nones), tengo los 3 tipos de sintonizadores FBC de VU+, recordar que el ultimo DVB-S2X V2 tiene los conectores externos mas juntos y en algunos canales, la indicacion de señal y calidad puede estar desaparecida segun el canal que pongas, como en VU+ el indicador de errores no funciona, siempre es cero, comparando el ruido en imagen (pixelacion), parece que el tuenr V2 gana al V1 por una muy pequeña diferencia.
Probados los Gigablue 4K con tuner FBC (los 2 modelos).

Que lo olvido, usando LNB normales, la busqueda manual o del satelite usandola base de datos de los transpondedores/frecuencias (fichero satellites.xml), funciona bien, pero si usas LNB unicable, no encontrara canales, las respuesta es muy lenta, entre que le pide un tp y el LNB se lo manda, ya salta a otro tp, encontrando de 1300 canales, solo 300 y luego dice que no encontro canales, realice varias pruebas subiendo los tiempos de respuesta del LNB unicable en la configuracion (unicable.xml) sin resultados positivos.
Tengo configurado que muestre erroes al hacer zapin entre canales usando LNB unicable para ver, pero recomiendo que no lo muestre, suele tardar de 1 a 3 segundos el cambio de canal, con la opcion cambio rapido de canal (FCC) no tienes este problema, pero mejor tener 8 sintonizadores configurados en el programa, en mi caso con 4 no atina casi nunca.
Luego segun los usa para grabar canales, se queda sin sintonizadores.

Sobre el sintonizador normal de VU+ que puede ser TDT o cable, internamente la conexion de antena en los 2 dobles/2 sintonizadores es una, dejan poner TDT y cable, pero al intentar salvar la segunda configuracion da errores/pantallazo azul simil windos, tengo 2 decos y da igual la imagen con los sintonizadores dobles, como admiten hasta 4 tuner USB-TDT, una opcion es usar la Mygica T230C antigua, soportada por driver, o la nueva MygicaT230C, todas USB-TDT2/cable y configurar para cable (no funciona al 100% por los driver para Enigma2, solo al 50% pero funcionan).
De VU+ probados desde hace años los sencillos y los dobles de TDT/TDT2 y Cable, el mejor en cuanto a sensibilidad es el sencillo (1 sintonizador) de TDT2/cable que tiene la placa azul (en este los conectores estan invertidos, la entrada de señal es por abajo)

El Octagon SF8008 4K Twin, de momento el mejor para busqueda ciega, pero.
Ya no se bloquea al encontrar canales 16APSK pero veo que con los cambios en Astra 19'2ºE que este mes diciembre 2023, veo que se lia con los DVB-S 10758 V 22000 5/6 QPSK que cambio a DVB-S2 10758 V 22000 2/3 8PSK, los ve en busqueda ciega como DVB-S, y los ve perfectamente con su correspondiente abono claro, si maulamente busco en DVB-S2 y borro lo que ya tiene, perfecto, como digo, se lia, tengo que poner las ultimas versiones para que que pasa.
Aqui un apunto, los sintonizadores FBC, no admiten errores con algun dato para buscar canales manualmente, cuidado que la opcion en automatico de algun parametro no funciona bien.

El Octagon SF8008 como indican los compañeros, no tiene CI, el lector de tarjetas lateral funciona con seca y tambien con nagra.
Un apunte, la version SF8008 mini casi son las mismas tripas/chip del modelo combo (SAT-TDT) sin la parte de la electronica del frontal, aviso que la caja de plastico semi-transparente disipa el calor peor (pero el plastico esta frio) que la caja metalica de los grandes.

El tuner del SF8008 sat es Si2166D (DVB-S2X)
El Edision OS MIO 4K y su version mas moderna Edison OS MIO+ 4K el tuner es Si6261 DVB-S2X, es mas sordo que el octagon, pude evaluar el Edision OS MIO 4K con la misma antena y otro compañero el MIO+ 4K.
Con el canal pescado de otro receptor, cargada la lista, SR1481 le cuesta y SR 1300 ya nada.
Realizando pruebas en Eutelsat10A a 10ºEste donde tenemos 11011 V 1200 3/5 DVB-S2/QPSK, Dzair TV.
Lo sintoniza, pero no se puede ver, abre los canales, pero no se puede ver de las pixelaciones que tiene.
El Octagon sin problemas.

Sobre la modificacion de los pasos para escanear en estos receptores, no merece la pena en estos receptores, tienen un ancho de banda de 4Mhz, para sintonizar 2 canales a menos de 2 Mhz toca buscar el primer -4Mhz y el segundo +4Mhz, si tienes 3 frecuencias, solo 2 bien.
Pruebas hace 1 año en Eutelsat 8 West B a 8.0° Oeste (W).
Tenemos 2 TP/Frecuencias.
12620 V SR890 DVB-S, esta sin problemas, salen canales de radio.
12621 V SR468 DVB-S2, esta se sintoniza sin problemas, pero al buscar canales, no encuentra nada, ojo que se tira 3 veces mas buscando, pero luego no muestra nada.
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Con LNB normal, tantos canales como tengan los 8 Tp/frecuencias de la misma banda, polaridad y satelite.
Con un LNB unicable y un sintonizador FBC, tantos canales como tengan los 8 Tp/frecuencias de los satelites que esten conectados a los sintonizadores, de 16-18 grabaciones al disco duro, el receptor va lento pero funciona bien.
Con tuner FBC, se puede usar una boca externa A y conectar un solo cable, dando servicio al sintonizador B (por bucle/loop interno) y tambien a los sintonizadores internos CDEFGH.
Con 2 placas FBC, necesitas un splitter/repartidor externo de 2 salidas con paso de alimentacion para dar servicio/señal a la segunda placa, al sintonizador I (J conexion interna/loop).

Los LNB unicable mixtos probados de 4/8/16/24 unicable y salidas normales 2/3 segun modelo.
Como me gusta hacer pruebas en decos con tuner FBC, para ver si aguantan las grabaciones en disco de 2'5" de 500GB y 5400rpm (GigaBlue 4K/Qviart linux3 4K) todos aguantaron 8 TP's y 16 granaciones.
Si se puede, es mas comodo tirar un segundo cable a otro satelite y poder tener 4 sintonizadores a cada satelite, con el DiSEqC solo tienes 4 sintonizadores activos, perdiendo el otro satelite.
No termina de implementarse por el precio de los LNB unicable programados y algo mas de perdidas.
Venden el programador Inverto y tambien se implemento herramientas desde el receptor Enigma2 para realizar esta programacion de forma mas barata con comandos, recordar que los LNB unicable son mas caros y mas sordos que los normales (hasta 0'7dB de figura de ruido), si no es problemas, perfecto, yo baje un cable para cada satelite.
Resumen: 2 satelites, hastab 4 satelites y repartir los 32 SCR de comunicacion disponibles en los LNB unicable programables, luego se unen usando un splitter de 2 (satelites) o 4 (satelites) por eso algo mas de perdidas, baja un cable hasta el receptor.
En el receptor se programan los sintonizadores con los satelites y los SCR que tenga ese satelite.

VU+DUO4K SE.- Admite 2 sintonizadores FBC, SAT/TDT/Cable, si son sat y tdt, tienen posicion determinada, no se pueden intercambiar.
CI y lectores de tarjeta, disco 2'5" de tamaño mas alto en cady (<10mm que es el estandar en 2'5").

VU+Ultimo4K (pelin menos potente), admite 3 sintonizadores.
2 sintonizadores FBC, SAT/TDT/Cable
1 sintonizador normal, sencillo/doble de satelite, sencillo de TDT/cable.
Disco duro interno de 2'5" o 3'5" el ultimo verificado 12TB, tiene 2 CI y 2 lectores de tarjetas.

Nota: Juraria que con los Multistreaming algunas veces se lia con los datos PLS, pero usando listas de canales de algun compañero, si metios los datos al buscar el canal o estan bien puestos los datos en el fichero satellites.xml, funcionan estos canales bien.

Disculpas por la traducción y llegar tarde.:-doh
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1 x 60cm for 5w + 13e + 19.2e
Quad LNBs on each sent to different receivers in different flats.
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An excellent and detailed post on these receivers. Thank-you.

> Edison OS MIO+ 4K, the tuner is Si6261 DVB-S2X,

I got an Edision MIO+ 4K. Have you got any tricks for getting multi-stream transmissions, and blindscanning.

MS: Although the Enigma2 SignalFinder (openvix 6.4.009) can be used, it cannot really get France TV channels on 5W. I got some unwatchable pixelated mess on one TP. I know my dish is too small for MS from 5W.

Blindscan: Is it preferable to add the TP to the satellites.xml and use this instead for low SR values? Although I don't know what channels can be found on 28.2 19.2 13 or 5W with lower SR.
 

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90cm motorised dishes(98x90)+fixed+multiLNB+24Unicable.
Currently 56 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

Octagon SF8008 4K Twin, VU+Duo², VU+Ultimo4K.
Recycled as the owner.
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North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
Sorry, Si6261 DVB-S2X, I put it wrong.....Availink AVL6261
The parameters of the forum partner with the Edision OS mio+ 4K tuner, as I say, similar, but actually worse.
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Disculpa, Si6261 DVB-S2X, lo puse mal.....Availink AVL6261
Los parametros del compañero de foro con el sintonizador Edision OS mio+ 4K, como digo, similares, pero peores en realidad.

The parameters of the forum companion with the Edision OS mio+ 4K tuner.
Here I give you the capacity of the DVBS2-X tuner of the Edision OS mio + 4k, this is what the Edision driver returns when it is consulted about its tuner, here we can deduce something important, we have a range from 0 bauds to 60,000. 000 baud, we have no minimum limit in SR.

Be careful with what I say because one thing is the capacity it has and another is what it is actually capable of supporting, which is why we are dealing with it in this thread, we already deduce that the SR of very low radio channel SR does not detect it ( octagon yes) and apart from that we already know that in streams with video, we do not have to stick to the SR, but within that SR see if it is capable of passing the multiplexed TS of the packet that makes up the stream in question of that channel and if it is capable of get to pass the FEC with zero errors and get the current stream.

It has a minimum frequency of 950 MHz but it can tolerate 5 MHz, I repeat capacity data, its real capacity is something else.

It reaches a maximum range of FEC 8/9 and of course like any tuner today it has its AUTO FEC.

Code:
Device Availink AVL6261 (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) capabilities:

     CAN_2G_MODULATION

     CAN_FEC_1_2

     CAN_FEC_2_3

     CAN_FEC_3_4

     CAN_FEC_4_5

     CAN_FEC_5_6

     CAN_FEC_6_7

     CAN_FEC_7_8

     CAN_FEC_8_9

     CAN_FEC_AUTO

     CAN_GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO

     CAN_HIERARCHY_AUTO

     CAN_INVERSION_AUTO

     CAN_MULTISTREAM

     CAN_QPSK

     CAN_RECOVER

     CAN_TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO

DVB API Version 5.11, Current v5 delivery system: DVBS2

Supported delivery systems:

    [DVBS2]

     DVBS

Frequency range for the current standard:

From:             950 MHz

To:              2.15 GHz

Step:            1.01 MHz

Tolerance:       5.00 MHz

Symbol rate ranges for the current standard:

From:                 0Bauds

To:              60.0 MBauds
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With the same antenna 90cm where the Edision OS mio 4K/OS mio+4K gives problems, the Octagon SF8008 is perfect.
I'm looking for reference photos.
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Con la misma antena 90cm donde el Edision OS mio 4K/OS mio+4K da problemas, el Octagon SF8008 perfecto.
Busco fotos de referencia.
 

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Currently 56 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

Octagon SF8008 4K Twin, VU+Duo², VU+Ultimo4K.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
An excellent and detailed post on these receivers. Thank-you.

> Edison OS MIO+ 4K, the tuner is Si6261 DVB-S2X,

I got an Edision MIO+ 4K. Have you got any tricks for getting multi-stream transmissions, and blindscanning.
In this case, always the same trick, more antenna.
In 2020, carry out tests with the 90cm motorized antenna.
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En este caso, siempre el mismo truco, mas antena.
En 2020 realice las pruebas con la antena motorizada de 90cm.

MS: Although the Enigma2 SignalFinder (openvix 6.4.009) can be used, it cannot really get France TV channels on 5W. I got some unwatchable pixelated mess on one TP. I know my dish is too small for MS from 5W.

Blindscan: Is it preferable to add the TP to the satellites.xml and use this instead for low SR values? Although I don't know what channels can be found on 28.2 19.2 13 or 5W with lower SR.
As long as the channels are commercial, no problem, below SR1300 the problems begin. As the Edision OS mio 4K/mio+ 4K is more deaf, the blind search is better at least SR2000 is what I remember, I will review a post from a few years ago with these receivers (2020).
In Hispasat the PLS issue works better and in those tests through the Aragon links at 11330H9140 3/4 and Castilla la Mancha in 11491V7522 8/9 works very well.
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Mientras los canales sean comerciales, sin problema, por debajo de SR1300 empiezan los problemas.
Como el Edision OS mio 4K/mio+ 4K es mas sordo, la busqueda ciega mejor minimo SR2000 es lo que recuerdo, repasare un post de hace unos años con estos receptores (2020).
En Hispasat funciona mejor el tema de PLS y en esas pruebas por los enlaces de Aragon en 11330H9140 3/4
y Castilla la Mancha en 11491V7522 8/9 funciona muy bien.
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