Just Sharing This 2.2mtr Elite / Precision resurection... Part 2.

blademedia

Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,941
Reaction score
1,920
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
Sky
My Location
UK
I honestly think its worth another go J, its all part of the hobby as you know, POSITIVITY is the way to go :)
 

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
I honestly think its worth another go J, its all part of the hobby as you know, POSITIVITY is the way to go :)


Nah .... not going to happen. Tease me with a possible design, need sketches, must have sketches :D
 

blademedia

Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,941
Reaction score
1,920
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
Sky
My Location
UK
One option to try, I have that many things bookmarked.
ssdffgghg.PNG
 
Last edited:

Captain Jack

Retired human
Joined
Oct 21, 2006
Messages
11,897
Reaction score
8,078
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
See signature
My Location
North Somerset
Understand your dilemma. Inability to switch between bands effectively is what's stopping me from deploying my PF.

Do you have room for a 1.8m? I guess your CM is making its way into Chris's garden!
 

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
Understand your dilemma. Inability to switch between bands effectively is what's stopping me from deploying my PF.

Do you have room for a 1.8m? I guess your CM is making its way into Chris's garden!



Iv'e used up the three available dish positions now CJ, the only option open to me is to upgrade the installation of the 1.25 Gibby to a 1.5Gibby + changer, for use on Ka/Ku bands but will entail quite a bit of structural strengthening on the mount fixing arrangement. C-Band installation will stop as it is now ... spent enough on that as it is :eek:. Re: the 1.8CM, not too sure what the outcome is for that, it might just be a spare for both of us to use if and when ?.
 

scopus

Specialist Contributor
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Messages
3,267
Reaction score
3,923
Points
113
Age
60
My Satellite Setup
Primesat/Famaval 1.8 PF C/ku/Ka, Octagon SX8HD1, SX88, Openbox S3 Mini HD-V8S Freesat V7 HD-V8 Finder, Amiko A4K Combo, Satlook Colour HD Spectrum, Sansui A909 Amp and BOSE Acoustimass speakers for the audio.
My Location
Staffs UK
Understand your dilemma. Inability to switch between bands effectively is what's stopping me from deploying my PF.

Do you have room for a 1.8m? I guess your CM is making its way into Chris's garden!
I'm waiting for John to offer it to me.....lol
 

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.

scopus

Specialist Contributor
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Messages
3,267
Reaction score
3,923
Points
113
Age
60
My Satellite Setup
Primesat/Famaval 1.8 PF C/ku/Ka, Octagon SX8HD1, SX88, Openbox S3 Mini HD-V8S Freesat V7 HD-V8 Finder, Amiko A4K Combo, Satlook Colour HD Spectrum, Sansui A909 Amp and BOSE Acoustimass speakers for the audio.
My Location
Staffs UK

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
... Just a bit of observed info re: Norsat 8000RI C-Band 3.6 to 4.8 GHz lnb.

Iv'e had this lnb in use now for about a week.
This lnb is not as high a spec as some of the other alternatives out there and is a DRO type, but for the price i think it is pretty good. It seems to lock signals easily to say it's a slightly lower spec but will continue to use it on the 2.2 mtr for the time being.
Because of the lower spec, combined with any slight movement within the Promax, you can see the slight freq shift when receiving. The White trace is the early morning stored grab and the Yellow trace is the grab after three hours or so and a rise in outdoor temparature. The beacon spike at 4500.10 shows it well.
I like this lnb and would recommend it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Norsat 8000RI freq drift - with temparature rise... reduced...jpg
 

nelson_b

Contributor
Joined
Jul 27, 2008
Messages
1,985
Reaction score
2,075
Points
113
Age
74
My Satellite Setup
Strong 4375 driving a 2.4 m Channel Master dual focus offset + Invcom Quad C120 K/U l.n.b. + BSC 421 and Zinwell C band l.n.b.,s - DR HD F15 - TM5302 - Octagon SX88+Optima - GT Media V7 - HD receivers. + other dishes currently in use - Antique 3.0 m Prodelin P.F. - Channel Master 1.8 m offset - Channel Master. 1.2 m.
My Location
North West Yorkshire - near Lancashire & Cumbria borders.
One option to try, I have that many things bookmarked.
View attachment 105413

Hi - B.M. ... tried something similar a few years back ... k/u/ didn,t work particularly well ..
but it was better than the combined C/ku l.n.b that cost me about £100 .00 imported from america:) home made c  ku.jpg
 

blademedia

Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,941
Reaction score
1,920
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
Sky
My Location
UK
Thanks nelson, Any loss in C band signal I would presume not
 

nelson_b

Contributor
Joined
Jul 27, 2008
Messages
1,985
Reaction score
2,075
Points
113
Age
74
My Satellite Setup
Strong 4375 driving a 2.4 m Channel Master dual focus offset + Invcom Quad C120 K/U l.n.b. + BSC 421 and Zinwell C band l.n.b.,s - DR HD F15 - TM5302 - Octagon SX88+Optima - GT Media V7 - HD receivers. + other dishes currently in use - Antique 3.0 m Prodelin P.F. - Channel Master 1.8 m offset - Channel Master. 1.2 m.
My Location
North West Yorkshire - near Lancashire & Cumbria borders.
Thanks nelson, Any loss in C band signal I would presume not

Its quite a way back in time now that i did this , but i don,t recall any loss in C band from cutting the back out and attaching the k/u/ ....
 

scopus

Specialist Contributor
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Messages
3,267
Reaction score
3,923
Points
113
Age
60
My Satellite Setup
Primesat/Famaval 1.8 PF C/ku/Ka, Octagon SX8HD1, SX88, Openbox S3 Mini HD-V8S Freesat V7 HD-V8 Finder, Amiko A4K Combo, Satlook Colour HD Spectrum, Sansui A909 Amp and BOSE Acoustimass speakers for the audio.
My Location
Staffs UK
Nelson is right. C band works fine, but Ku really suffers. I tried them without much success on Ku.
 

blademedia

Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,941
Reaction score
1,920
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
Sky
My Location
UK
Forget that idea then John:(, its no good :D
 

blademedia

Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2016
Messages
1,941
Reaction score
1,920
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
Sky
My Location
UK
I was asked earlier on in the thread what it would perform like on Ka or Ku, can't place either at true focus as this is a dedicated C-Band only reflector but can get pretty close to focus as a compromise.
Going to try this for a bit of an experiment & evaluation on the 2.2 ...... nothing to loose, easy as just changing scalar ring that has only one fixing screw. If it degrades C-Band performance too much then off it comes -- i have Ka & Ku bands covered already using other dedicated dishes.

Iv'e got a spare flat scalar, the same as what's in use now on the 2.2 for C-Band only.
Iv'e grafted the Inverto Ka/Ku onto it as close to focus as i can get.
Iv'e got reference readings and physical locations of equipment of dedicated C-Band frequencies documented prior to fitting the modded scalar to enable comparison.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just about to start a similar project John, I know its not going to work :D, but what the hell, ive got nothing better to do this afternoon :),

If I can get the dish to perform like a 1,8 in KU band and a 2mtr in C band I will be happy, anything above will be a bonus, I can always swap to a single LNB if I want to chase weak signals.
IMG_4044.JPG
 

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
Forget that idea then John:(, its no good :D



Only just seen this ... :-ohcrap , Ka is a no-no, but it does work better on Ku when iv'e tried it in the past, and in those days we didn't have access to Ka stuff like we do today.
 

John

Enthusiast.
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
3,894
Reaction score
5,903
Points
113
Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
Just about to start a similar project John, I know its not going to work :D, but what the hell, ive got nothing better to do this afternoon :),

If I can get the dish to perform like a 1,8 in KU band and a 2mtr in C band I will be happy, anything above will be a bonus, I can always swap to a single LNB if I want to chase weak signals.
View attachment 105803


I think on Ku you won't be too far off with your predictions, crack on chap & report back :)
 

scopus

Specialist Contributor
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Messages
3,267
Reaction score
3,923
Points
113
Age
60
My Satellite Setup
Primesat/Famaval 1.8 PF C/ku/Ka, Octagon SX8HD1, SX88, Openbox S3 Mini HD-V8S Freesat V7 HD-V8 Finder, Amiko A4K Combo, Satlook Colour HD Spectrum, Sansui A909 Amp and BOSE Acoustimass speakers for the audio.
My Location
Staffs UK
Only just seen this ... :-ohcrap , Ka is a no-no, but it does work better on Ku when iv'e tried it in the past, and in those days we didn't have access to Ka stuff like we do today.
I had a Yuri combination like this on my Precision 1.8 (C/Ku) it worked really well.
Look forward to the results...
 

moonbase

Small Dish Man
Joined
Mar 29, 2004
Messages
4,525
Reaction score
4,657
Points
113
My Satellite Setup
.
My Location
UK
John,

What type of mounting arrangement did you use for the Precision 2.2m dish? From the couple of pictures showing a partial view of the back it looks like you have fabricated some type of mounting and not adapted the CM 1.8m mount to fit?

Rgds
 
Top