40.5W SES6 & NSS806

[John]

7th Oct, 22. - Iv'e set up the dish [2.2] & tweeked for ESPN this morning, North Nottinghamshire, with the intent of doing monitoring throughout the day. Using the Promax & EBSPro for measurements
Keep in mind that other factors ie: uplink conditions etc will play a part in my downlink captured measurements

Ist measurement @ 8.30am. Fluctuating signals / in & out of lock / clear sky / Promax-7.8dB-8.1dB. / EBSPro-8dB

9.30am - 8.3dB Promax / EBSPro-8.3dB
11.00am - 8.3 to 8.6dB Promax / 8.3dB EBSPro. Maintaining lock but gusty wind conditions causing dish movement.
12.00 - 8.6 dB
1.30pm - Promax 8.6
*Noted- viewing Promax , transponders either side of 3980 L are stable with no alterations in signal amplitude but 3980 L ESPN was altering up and down in signal strength.
8pm - Promax, signal down to 6.5 -7dB ... unable to lock.

 

[John]

The double posting is not my doing

 

[scopus]

Never goes here...
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Yes

interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

for those can get get ESPN, what time does it GO comepletely and what time does it come back for you

for me, i lose it around 8pm maybe 9pm, and its back in the morning....

Never goes here...
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interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

@scopus what DB reading are you getting on FS1,2,3 - mines 10.5db - whats your reading on these, when you're getting ESPN too...?

ta

Will check later..

9.30am - 8.3dB Promax / EBSPro-8.3dB
11.00am - 8.3 to 8.6dB Promax / 8.3dB EBSPro. Maintaining lock but gusty wind conditions causing dish movement.
12.00 - 8.6 dB
1.30pm - Promax 8.6
*Noted- viewing Promax , transponders either side of 3980 L are stable with no alterations in signal amplitude but 3980 L ESPN was altering up and down in signal strength.
8pm - Promax, signal down to 6.5 -7dB ... unable to lock.

Currently 8.0db here Lock OK

 

[moonbase]

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

Will check later..

Currently 8.0db here Lock OKView attachment 145379

Top class dish alignment from one of the top men in the UK on the dx scene.
Particularly impressive considering it is with a 1.8m dish and located part way Ooop North approaching the unfavourable reception areas of the UK.

 

[John]

There is something weird about the behaviour of this frequency for me - don't know if it's interference related or not at all but it sure acts strange. Look on the vid how the Tp's either side of 3980 L are stable whilst 3980 L is up and down in strength at random ??. Why are @Manikm909 & myself experiencing this ? , we both have close 5G towers ? ... answers on a post card
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There is something weird about the behaviour of this frequency for me - don't know if it's interference related or not at all but it sure acts strange. Look on the vid how the Tp's either side of 3980 L are stable whilst 3980 L is up and down in strength at random ??. Why are @Manikm909 & myself experiencing this ? , we both have close 5G towers ? ... answers on a post card
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WTF is going on with this system ?.

 

[scopus]

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

Yes

interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

for those can get get ESPN, what time does it GO comepletely and what time does it come back for you

for me, i lose it around 8pm maybe 9pm, and its back in the morning....

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

@scopus what DB reading are you getting on FS1,2,3 - mines 10.5db - whats your reading on these, when you're getting ESPN too...?

ta

Will check later..

9.30am - 8.3dB Promax / EBSPro-8.3dB
11.00am - 8.3 to 8.6dB Promax / 8.3dB EBSPro. Maintaining lock but gusty wind conditions causing dish movement.
12.00 - 8.6 dB
1.30pm - Promax 8.6
*Noted- viewing Promax , transponders either side of 3980 L are stable with no alterations in signal amplitude but 3980 L ESPN was altering up and down in signal strength.
8pm - Promax, signal down to 6.5 -7dB ... unable to lock.

Currently 8.0db here Lock OKView attachment 145379

8.8db this morning

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

Will check later..

Currently 8.0db here Lock OKView attachment 145379

8.8db this morning..

 

[John]

Different kettle of fish this morning - 3980 L is stable and behaving it's self
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[John]

Re: the double or treble repeat postings from me iv'e been having problems with and others i think - if i press 'Post reply' and the error "Ooops there's a server problem" i immediately press right mouse button 'reload' which then clears the error message and shows me it sent the post 1st time. PC is running Win10 Pro.

 

[Manikm909]

thanks guys
currently getting 8.5db and solid signal, it will disappear though around 8pm...i will just have to live with it. or get a 2.4 eventually.

 

[Manikm909]

something weird happened yesterday . ..... about 3.15pm - i lost ALL signal for about 10 mins...

i went outside, and the sun was BRIGHT and facing right at the dish, it was lowish in the sky. and was about 40.5w location..

could the SUN have wiped out signal, seems illogical but also logical.

the signal came back afterwards, same as it was 8.2-8.5db - was during Chelsea match. i tried other channels at the time, zero signal.

 

[ozumo]

It's the time of year for solar outage, where the sun is directly behind the satellite. If there was any shadows on the dish face at that time it indicates it doesn't have a clear view of the satellite.

 

[Manikm909]

something weird happened yesterday . ..... about 3.15pm - i lost ALL signal for about 10 mins...

i went outside, and the sun was BRIGHT and facing right at the dish, it was lowish in the sky. and was about 40.5w location..

could the SUN have wiped out signal, seems illogical but also logical.

the signal came back afterwards, same as it was 8.2-8.5db - was during Chelsea match. i tried other channels, zero signal.

It's the time of year for sun outage, where the sun is directly behind the satellite. If there was any shadows on the dish face at that time it indicates it doesn't have a clear view of the satellite.

no shadows - dish lit up fully by the sun

 

[scopus]

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

Yes

interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

for those can get get ESPN, what time does it GO comepletely and what time does it come back for you

for me, i lose it around 8pm maybe 9pm, and its back in the morning....

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

interesting - thanks! i thought you lost it at certain times of day too.
thats with polo pipe yeah?

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

@scopus what DB reading are you getting on FS1,2,3 - mines 10.5db - whats your reading on these, when you're getting ESPN too...?

ta

Will check later..

9.30am - 8.3dB Promax / EBSPro-8.3dB
11.00am - 8.3 to 8.6dB Promax / 8.3dB EBSPro. Maintaining lock but gusty wind conditions causing dish movement.
12.00 - 8.6 dB
1.30pm - Promax 8.6
*Noted- viewing Promax , transponders either side of 3980 L are stable with no alterations in signal amplitude but 3980 L ESPN was altering up and down in signal strength.
8pm - Promax, signal down to 6.5 -7dB ... unable to lock.

Currently 8.0db here Lock OKView attachment 145379

8.8db this morning

Never goes here...
View attachment 145336

Yes

I used to lose it sometimes when the FEC was 7/8 but it has been OK since it went to 3/4

Will check later..

Currently 8.0db here Lock OKView attachment 145379

8.8db this morning..
View attachment 145381

It's called solar outage, happens every March and October when the sun is directly behind the satellites..

something weird happened yesterday . ..... about 3.15pm - i lost ALL signal for about 10 mins...

i went outside, and the sun was BRIGHT and facing right at the dish, it was lowish in the sky. and was about 40.5w location..

could the SUN have wiped out signal, seems illogical but also logical.

the signal came back afterwards, same as it was 8.2-8.5db - was during Chelsea match. i tried other channels, zero signal.

no shadows - dish lit up fully by the sun

 

[Manikm909]

imagine the poor sod, that chooses to align on that day and at that time!!
omg

 

[Manikm909]

happening right now again!

3.30 on the dot.

ZERO

 

[suedschwede]

Start and end time Sunoutage, start 4:39 p.m., end 4:54 p.m No reception within this time, 0dB

 

[Manikm909]

for me, no signal from 3.30 - 4.00pm - on 40.5w , back now

 

[suedschwede]

New TP 4151L 5000 5/6 8PSK

 

[suedschwede]

Here is a new, very strong transponder, probably a feed

 

[ymttt]

I have tested many C-Band LNBs, the "Kaonsat LNB C Band Single Premium KS-N201G 13K" has been the best of them all so far.
It is used by most DX'ers in Germany and everyone is very happy with it.
Source of supply is ebay.com (Indonesia)

Thanks for this information but can you share the lnbs tested against this particular one?

I have tested many C-Band LNBs, the "Kaonsat LNB C Band Single Premium KS-N201G 13K" has been the best of them all so far.
It is used by most DX'ers in Germany and everyone is very happy with it.
Source of supply is ebay.com (Indonesia)

Thanks for this info but can you share the names of the other lnbs that were compared with the Kaonsat?