47,7° East Eutelsat Quantum

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Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El (being refurbished), 1.8m Precision PF with SMW Q-PLL LNBs or various C & X bits
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I checked it with the big antenna. The 12523 H and 12702 H clearly come from this position. The 12702 H could be telemetry or the beacon. I don't know what the other signal is. Interestingly, I discovered two new signals on 12215 and 12226 H. But I can't unlock it at the moment.
I think that the X is probably BPSK as the CS display flips phase randomly where it should show just 2 positions. Usually, if you just run it for a short time you'll only see the 2 positions of BPSK. It may be a TT&C beacon but I can't look at the moment.
 
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The first picture is from this morning and by noon the two transponders can be received again like yesterday.
 

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satesco

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Romania
In this recent (2022) pdf, the high flexibility of Quantum is described in more detail.
All sorts of up/downlink combinations are possible, including frequency reuse.
So indeed, the entire 10.7...12.75 GHz band may be used.
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10872 V,62000,1/4,S2- Data, new. RollOff of 0.05 also indicates the presence of the S2X extension.
11363 V,4200,3/4,32AOSK-GS, new. Maybe someone will confirm this mux; I am not sure about it.
Searching in the lower band, I discover an active mux with appearances like those that have been active for longer. So a full Ku-band search is recommended.
After doing the first time (#503) tests on 47.7E with neumoDVB with inconclusive results, I returned to muxes with a symbol rate of 133000. This time the spectrum looks a bit better, but without correctly finding and locking the two muxes-11790 H and 12020 V, the two muxes with a symbol rate of 62000.
It is amazing how fast it scans 6903x at 47.7E on Linux, about 7 min; unlike Crazyscan under Windows, it seems to take an "eternity."
Interesting that neumoDVB finds a lot of beacons but without a correct identification of muxes with a high symbol rate (133000).
 

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I can confirm the 10872 H. I can't receive anything on vertical.
 

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Also I'm getting 10872 H 61900, for first time
 

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Romania
47.7E_12240 H,65336,1/4,S2(/S2X),0.15-GS, new.
And some spikes in the upper band.
 

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satesco

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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I'm not saying anything new, but this Eutelsat Q is the most difficult to receive. This is because of the problematic parameters, especially with high symbol rates, and because the signal fluctuates, I don't know where the source/area is coming from.
Passing with the antenna at this position is often like passing through a station/arc without an identifying sign.

Perhaps because of this, finding and locking a transponder is (slight exaggeration) a performance, even if it is no longer a novelty.
Of course, that finding doesn't make it appetizing to the program consumer. He is a "target" for those seeking rare "trophies," i.e., enthusiasts.

The novelties are 11373 H, 62000, 1/4, S2 and 12140 H, 125578, 1/4, S2. The trp on 11892 H has moved to 11902, 62000, 1/4.
Probably 11790 is still active (maybe not), but the signal is too weak with my antenna to detect/lock it.

To those who have reservations for tbs6903x/6909x cards, I advise them to reconsider this option because, for now, only with these cards can you lock symbol rate over 100000 Msps or access to DAB+s NRK at 1.0W.
With all the limitations users observe, these cards will be valid for a long time. For now, there is no other alternative for enthusiasts.
Of course, this is just an opinion.
 

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11270 H 133000 DVBS2X

thanks satesco:Y
 

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Great, @dreamsat. I was expecting you to find a new mux.
With the stronger signal, it may stand out if there is a chance of a mux being found.
You might find a symbol rate at 11790 H, or, who knows, you might find new ones, for example, in the upper band.
 

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this is now 11801 H 133000 with a Video Content

12021 V 133000
11171 V 133000
 

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