Astra 1N chat - January 2012

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woborny said:
The migration of BBC channels to 1N will be taking place during the early hours of the morning on Friday 24th February, between approximately 03:00 and 05:00 GMT.


_http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2012/02/changes-to-bbc-services-on-sat.shtml
thanks woborny.is this official? can't believe after all our battles to get an inch of signal more from Astra 2D on our receivers,now a new era is starting
 

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dvdfilm said:
thanks woborny.is this official? can't believe after all our battles to get an inch of signal more from Astra 2D on our receivers,now a new era is starting


well its on an offical bbc blog.
and we hope that the "new era" lasts longer than the end of the year and 2f being operational, as it amy just mean 8 months of BBC TV on smaller dishes in Spain....
 

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woborny said:
well its on an offical bbc blog.
and we hope that the "new era" lasts longer than the end of the year and 2f being operational, as it amy just mean 8 months of BBC TV on smaller dishes in Spain....
yes but Analoguesat was saying that 1N mission was only to provide additional capacity on the band previously used by Astra 2C,instead there is a complete migration of tps from Astra 2D that seems unexpected
 

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going on that link ti seesm 2d life might be coming to end quicker than they expected and if 1n wasnt forthcoming we might have seena a satillete from somewhere else moved in for a temporaary mission even without spot beam technology and possible could have seen all fta channels goign encypted fora temporary time absurd as it sounds but it might have happened if 2d was dieing quicker than expected and rather than no service they might have took that decision

but we will never know we just will now see 2d go for good it looks liek it
 

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BBC Channels to move to Astra 1N Friday 24th February 2012

_http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2012/02/changes-to-bbc-services-on-sat.shtml

The BBC channels, BBC1, BB2, BBC3, BBC4, BBC1HD, BBCHD, CBBC, CBeebie, will be moving from Astra 2D to Astra 1N this coming Friday.

There will be no change of frequencies.

The BBC channels will be using the same frequencies as they currently do.

However, this will mean that reception of these BBC channels in Spain will be much better than currently.

In some areas, they should be able to be received on a small 80cm or 1m satellite dish, where are previously they may not have been available even on a 2.4m satellite dish.

This follows the recent move of the ITV and channel 4 group of channels to Astra 1N in the last few weeks.

This is from a reliable source cant wait till friday ;-)
 

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roberto mafara said:
This is from a reliable source cant wait till friday ;-)
Would that source be the same one as woborny gave a hour or so ago, ie the BBC website? ;)
 

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Sorry I did not see that early post It is indeed from the bbc website
 

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Astra 2D simply is at its of life - it already lasted longer than expected. They have to move the transponders to 1N. That's why 1N was positioned at 28.2 East. Maybe 2D will be used for some occasional SNG Feeds for the UK on a different position.
 

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Pietclock said:
Astra 2D simply is at its of life - it already lasted longer than expected. They have to move the transponders to 1N. That's why 1N was positioned at 28.2 East. Maybe 2D will be used for some occasional SNG Feeds for the UK on a different position.

Maybe it will go around to 2E which seems to be the graveyard spot for SNG use although not sure what the footprint would look like from there?
 

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I wonder what they'll do with Astra 2D's twin, Astra 3A as that only has a couple of active transponders now the German cable are no longer using it. Funny how both satellites are coming to the end of their lives at the same time. End of an era.
 

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They are the same type of satellite and were launched in 2000 and 2001 ...and their normal life span was expected to be 10 years only according the manufactorer. Astra 3A probably still has 1 year or so to live.

It's interesting, that 11.954 will still not move to the 1N spot beam. The BBC obviously do not expect many people to watch the interactive streams or listen to the radios outside the UK.
 

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Pietclock said:
It's interesting, that 11.954 will still not move to the 1N spot beam. The BBC obviously do not expect many people to watch the interactive streams or listen to the radios outside the UK.
I seem to remember the radio stations where put back on the widebeam to help ex-pats after a short stay on Astra 2D. Not sure if it was true but I suppose it would help ease congestion on their net streams if people can easily listen via satellite.
 

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the bbc move to astra 2f end of this year ?
it pan european beam or spot uk beam ?
 

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Pietclock said:
They are the same type of satellite and were launched in 2000 and 2001 ...and their normal life span was expected to be 10 years only according the manufactorer. Astra 3A probably still has 1 year or so to live.

It's interesting, that 11.954 will still not move to the 1N spot beam. The BBC obviously do not expect many people to watch the interactive streams or listen to the radios outside the UK.

On some SES webpages an expected lifetime of 15 years is being reported, like: _http://www.ses.com/4628803/astra-2d and _http://www.ses.com/4628761/astra-3a
 

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@solly: No chance of BBC being anything other than narrow-focus. Spot beam it will be.
 

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solly said:
the bbc move to astra 2f end of this year ?
it pan european beam or spot uk beam ?

You already know the answer to that one solly - it will certainly be the UK beam.
 

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Is there any detailed frequency plan available of 1N ? In particular i would like to know which frequency bands can be covered and for each frequency which beam it can be switched to. This is important for all that are not able to receive 1N (any of the 3 known beams) and fear that there might be moving also frequencies from EB1/2A/2B.
 

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deepbluesky said:
Is there any detailed frequency plan available of 1N ? In particular i would like to know which frequency bands can be covered and for each frequency which beam it can be switched to. This is important for all that are not able to receive 1N (any of the 3 known beams) and fear that there might be moving also frequencies from EB1/2A/2B.

1N can cover all the frequencies - and I suspect any frequency can be switched to any beam. The EB1 stuff is unlikely to be moved to SES birds though.
 

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C0re said:
On some SES webpages an expected lifetime of 15 years is being reported, like: _http://www.ses.com/4628803/astra-2d and _http://www.ses.com/4628761/astra-3a

I think that's a typo. All the other satellites have a 15 year lifespan but 2D and 3A are special types.
 
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