Astra 1N tests - latest chat

[welshman234]

I hope said feeds wont impact upon quality though

 

[satesco]

Interesting that SES obviously want to make maximum use of 1N even if all TP's won't be used for DTH services in the interim period (by using it for feeds too).

It's a good observation!I thought also about it today when I saw two feeds are functional.That's why there are two European spots and only one for UK!

 

[M60]

It's a good observation!I thought also about it today when I saw two feeds are functional.That's why there are two European spots and only one for UK!

I guess up until now SES haven't really had the spare spectrum capacity to do much in the way of SNG/Ad-Hoc occasional feeds from 28.2E as all their alloted spectrum has been in use. Opening up of the 'C' spectrum will allow them to utilise feed capacity in the short term, longer term I can see all the transponder allocations filling up so won't be an option but for now and I guess whilst 1N is at 28.2E they can make full use of this.

Out of sixteen available frequencies 1N can use we've currently got, in permanent DTH use, three of them and two of these currently have services on. We can expect 11053H to have a transport stream fed to it at some point with probably the ITV TP from 12402V and another illuminated TP carrying ITV1HD services but after that is anyones guess? I would suspect that whatever deal ITV have in place with Sky for uplinking to 10936V is only short term and that longer term one of ITV's new contracted TP's will take these services. I quite like the Sky uplinked 2D HD ITV1HD's as they are full 1920x1080i and do look very good!

 

[satesco]

I guess up until now SES haven't really had the spare spectrum capacity to do much in the way of SNG/Ad-Hoc occasional feeds from 28.2E as all their alloted spectrum has been in use. Opening up of the 'C' spectrum will allow them to utilise feed capacity in the short term, longer term I can see all the transponder allocations filling up so won't be an option but for now and I guess whilst 1N is at 28.2E they can make full use of this.

Besides the reasons given by you,in fact Astra 1N is provisional, as we all know, on this position.And this for four reasons,two technical,one commercial and one strategic: 1.once he is a backup satellite,and 2.on the other hand it saved energy using for feeds.In two years Astra 1N 3 should be operating at full capacity when it will be moved to 19.2 position.
3.From the commercially point of view,as the two-year as sit on this position, amortized costs in good part.
4.And there is another very important reason:Astra fleet is hardly used for the transmission of feeds,most are provided by others satellite operators:Eutelsat,Intelsat,etc.Perhaps it will attract many TV operators,that customers will migrate to the Astra.As we have seen today with Arqiva and Globecast,Eutelsat's old customers.

 

[M60]

Besides the reasons given by you,in fact Astra 1N is provisional, as we all know, on this position.And this for four reasons,two technical,one commercial and one strategic: 1.once he is a backup satellite,and 2.on the other hand it saved energy using for feeds.In two years Astra 1N 3 should be operating at full capacity when it will be moved to 19.2 position.
3.From the commercially point of view,as the two-year as sit on this position, amortized costs in good part.
4.And there is another very important reason:Astra fleet is hardly used for the transmission of feeds,most are provided by others satellite operators:Eutelsat,Intelsat,etc.Perhaps it will attract many TV operators,that customers will migrate to the Astra.As we have seen today with Arqiva and Globecast,Eutelsat's old customers.

Yep, good points there. It would be interesting to know if SES are undercutting Eutelsat for occasional use/feed costs as generally Eutelsat are considered a cheaper operator than SES (but offer less in the way of backup at 28.2E).

Is 11053H still transmitting? I've just done a TP scan and can't seem to get lock?

Edit: Got it now! Still has no services on there though yet.

 

[welshman234]

Has anyone noticed that 7720 now has a test card and is no longer blank at least on my Sky HD box

 

[andrewcrawford]

yeah 7720 is now those bars

can someone post all known frequncies that have bene workign over the period since getting to 28.2 including sr and fec etc

so it be like this the list

11126v dvb-s2 22000 2/3 8psk
11053h .... etc so we havea list of all of them in one plac ei plan to rescan them all

 

[Ratchet]

yeah 7720 is now those bars

can someone post all known frequncies that have bene workign over the period since getting to 28.2 including sr and fec etc

so it be like this the list

11126v dvb-s2 22000 2/3 8psk
11053h .... etc so we havea list of all of them in one plac ei plan to rescan them all

I think this covers everything seen so far.

10964 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Solid Signal Lock - Channel 5 etc. - UK Spot Beam
11053 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Intermittent Signal Lock - No Services - UK Spot Beam
11127 V 22000 2/3 8PSK DVB-S2 - Solid Signal Lock - Channel 4 HD - UK Spot Beam
11160 H 3700 5/6 8PSK DVB-S2 - Currently Off Air- Hol-Link Test Card - European Widebeam
11165 H 1000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - No Services - European Widebeam
11171 H 3125 3/4 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - Arqiva Test Card - European Widebeam
11171 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - Various Sky Channels - European Widebeam

 

[andrewcrawford]

10964 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Solid Signal Lock - no change
11053 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Intermittent Signal Lock - signal lock no services
11127 V 22000 2/3 8PSK DVB-S2 - Solid Signal Lock - Channel 4 HD - no change
11160 H 3700 5/6 8PSK DVB-S2 - Currently Off Air- Hol-Link Test Card - no change
11165 H 1000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - No Services - no change
11171 H 3125 3/4 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - Arqiva Test Card - no change
11171 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - Various Sky Channels - no change

cheers

 

[welshman234]

So 7720 will be CH5+1 betting starts here...

 

[M60]

So 7720 will be CH5+1 betting starts here...

Yep, looks like it. We'll have to wait next for some video testing but reckon this might be delayed until Sky EPG's novated and 12422H is turned off.

 

[Shrubsole]

So 7720 will be CH5+1 betting starts here...

I think it's a certainty, the better bet is WHEN?

And will all the other channels turn of encryption at the same time?

 

[welshman234]

My Sky Hd box had its software updated yesterday so perhaps that is why a software update has been done

 

[Analoguesat]

I think it's a certainty, the better bet is WHEN?

C5 +1 launches on Dec 6th. Therefore the latest date that video tests can commence is Nov 29th.

 

[welshman234]

3 weeks of testing here we com.My new VU+ single will arrive tomorrow so I wont have to rely on my crappy SKY hD box to monitor changes anymore.......

 

[Dan Dan]

TENERIFE SIGNAL TESTS - 1M DISH
10964 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - UK Spot Beam NO SIGNAL
11053 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - UK Spot Beam NO SIGNAL
11171H NO SIGNAl

 

[welshman234]

Thortenerife You might have to bite the bullet and get a bigger dish. The problem is you buy a big dish nwo and whok nows if you have to change the damn thing when 2F and company come along.....

 

[M60]

C5 +1 launches on Dec 6th. Therefore the latest date that video tests can commence is Nov 29th.

I guess they'll have the Sky EPG novated by then and if 12442H is turned off could be around this time the services all join Freesat? Maybe they'll run some timeshifted video testing with it off the EPG (after EPG novation) but then put some sort of caption up prior to launch. Didn't ITV do this when they launched their +1 in Jan or did it go live straight away?

 

[skomedal]

TENERIFE SIGNAL TESTS - 1M DISH
10964 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - UK Spot Beam NO SIGNAL
11053 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - UK Spot Beam NO SIGNAL
11171H NO SIGNAl

Have you tried this:-

Freq, 11127V sr 22000 fec 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK transmitting Channel 4HD clear ( not encrypted ).

Satbeam website says KU-band UK Spot beam for this channel.

Good luck

Regards

 

[Analoguesat]

I guess they'll have the Sky EPG novated by then and if 12442H is turned off could be around this time the services all join Freesat? Maybe they'll run some timeshifted video testing with it off the EPG (after EPG novation) but then put some sort of caption up prior to launch. Didn't ITV do this when they launched their +1 in Jan or did it go live straight away?

The Sky epg must be sorted. As far as I understand from one of the poster over on the DS forum who is involved in a tv channel, Sky wont even talk to companies about carriage unless all the paperwork is in order