CCTV advice what to install etc,

[Archive4]

Terryl

W.r.t. web access for "unauthorized" people, that is the main reason I don't want to use WiFi-connected cameras. Cabled connections are hopefully a little more secure, but I could probably be OK with that, particularly if I could set up encrypted connections (ANOTHER thing I know absolutely SFA about at the moment) so that I could, if necessary, remotely access when "elsewhere".

We have had a few attempted break-ins around here in the, sometimes recent, past, but OTOH, we do have quite a few neighbors (automated US spelling correction, unfortunately - the forum "staff" need to look at that because it's essentially a UK forum!) who try to keep an eye on adjacent properties, and that's fairly reassuring.

Easily corrected , neighbours , click the UK spelling option on your chosen browser.
But have to agree, a nosy neighbour beats any camera system by a country mile, or kilometre, or a few yards, whatever!

 

[jeallen01]

Chris

As I said earlier, I don't have CCTV as yet and that's why I'm interested in finding out the possibilities of what to install, and what not to!

 

[jeallen01]

Milamber

Thanks - now found out how to do that, and so did it - US spelling now sucks

 

[Archive4]

Milamber

Thanks - now found out how to do that, and so did it - US spelling now sucks

Don´t post that in open forum, Terryl may be watching

 

[jeallen01]

FWIW, one of my almost-immediate neighbours had a CCTV system alone - until someone broke into the side entrance of his house and nicked his very expensive bike (at the 2nd attempt - tried in the evening and then came back a few hours later and succeeded )! Almost immediately he had a monitored intruder alarm system installed.

Our monitored alarm system was installed about 8-10yrs ago after SWMBO woke up and saw someone peering in through the lounge front window - no-one has tried anything since then as far as I know. FWIW, I had a flashing alarm system box installed on the front of the house, AND another one on the rear wall to deter anyone who tries that approach - and then my next door neighbours (who have been burgled twice because they are Asian - probably the buggers thought they lots of gold jewelry!) had one put on the rear of their house last year after an inspection by the security company in question (which is the same as ours - so the inspector must have "got the message"!)

PS to Milamber - have changed the national spelling option in IE11 but it still does not like the UK spelling of neighbours ! Anyway, that won't help Terryl!

 

[Archive4]

PS to Milamber - have changed the national spelling option in IE11 but it still does not like the UK spelling of neighbours !

Well what do you expect, it´s an Aussie program via the 7 network!
FWIW when I break in I´ll come from the south east of your house where there are no cameras and cannot be seen by the neighbours.
( Do not give too much information away on any internet platform, even here, we are not the only ones that watch it! )

 

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Chris

As I said earlier, I don't have CCTV as yet and that's why I'm interested in finding out the possibilities of what to install, and what not to!

That's why i gave you the link as you will also need to register with them.

The dvr is the easy part to sort, as the are much the same.

I use a mix of IP cams and analogue cams.

I have a 32" tv in the corner of the room displaying all the cams.

1 analogue cam is on the front door/top of the driveway, another cam is looking at my kitchen door/car/garage door.

1 analogue cam pointing at my back wall, as I have had criminal damage to garden ornaments and shed.

I have an ipcam on a bird feeder in the garden, and another IP cam viewing the brick shed door.

And at my other house is 2 ipcams 1 front and 1 back. Theses stream back to my nvr.

That way I can view them all real time, and I can also view them on iPhone.

I have also used them twice to capture anti social behaviour.

The lastest incident was some one regularly letting his dog foul my front garden.

And I have had car parts stolen from my car.

I have other security measures also in place now. But I won't mention them online.

The ipcams have wi-fi on them, but that's useless, and keeps dropping out.
So I have them all hard wired, and it's far better now.

And try and keep all the video cabling and power cabling as short as possible.

My dvr's keep the recordings for 28 days, and have geo fencing options. If some one brakes a geofence line, then it's sets it recording and it snaps a photo. I can also get it to email me.

I now have better vision during the night as I have added ir flood lamps so both Gardens and drive way light up.

Another security tip, don't fit the dvr/nvr in with the rest of your kit, keep it in your bedroom/loft and run a cable down to view it or use an android box or similar to view it.

 

[2cvbloke]

I've put my Sricam to work, to spy on one of the cats (Dave) who keeps trying to steal Spud's food which is laced with stuff to sort out her bladder troubles, Dave seems rather confused as to how he keeps getting caught out...

 

[Archive-8]

I've put my Sricam to work, to spy on one of the cats (Dave) who keeps trying to steal Spud's food which is laced with stuff to sort out her bladder troubles, Dave seems rather confused as to how he keeps getting caught out...

Its using the cctv I have been able to scare the odd cat, by sending the dog out their.

Or I have been able to go out and feed the hedgehogs (when they were about)

 

[jeallen01]

Magician

If you try to get into our house from the S.E, then EVERYONE can see you coming and you will have to climb over a lot of high fences to do!

 

[jeallen01]

2cv

Cats - we have 2 cats on different (& expensive!) prescription diets and we had a lot of trouble with one eating the other's food and vice-versa. Finally (and expensively!) solved that with microchip-reader automatic feeders - now they can only access their own food trays. Had a similar problem with the two exterior catflaps and other cats getting into the house - solved with a microchip-reader flap in place of one of them and the other set to only let cats out.

In both cases we used Sureflap products (which we got from Amazon) and they seem to work very well.

Now, we have no food-related or unwanted intruder problems

 

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Magician

If you try to get into our house from the S.E, then EVERYONE can see you coming and you will have to climb over a lot of high fences to do!

You forget the cloak of invisibility and levitation ;)

 

[jeallen01]

If the Serbs can get an F117 (not to mention the Federation detecting cloaked Klingon Birds of Prey) then we will get you!!!

 

[Archive4]

Always best in the original Klingon

 

[jeallen01]

On a more serious note: our exterior PIR lamps failed a couple of days ago, and took out the relevant lighting circuit breaker. When I reset the breaker last night there was quite a distinct flash from it as it tripped again - when I investigated further this morning, a separate external sensor which controls a particular lamp had literally exploded! The translucent window was blown out and you can see where some components on the PCB behind that had vapourised completely! Glad no-one was standing near it at the time.

I have had several sensors fail without any visible damage but this is the first time I have ever seen anything like what happened here.

 

[Archive4]

That´s spooky! I replaced an external security PIR light this morning for a friend. Nothing wrong with it, other than the right hand side contact on the bulb mount had melted thus no longer making contact. First time I´ve seen that happen. Was not a " cheap " Chino version either. Came from a reputable Spanish electrical shop and had all the usual approval markings, although I am aware they are often copied on fakes!

 

[Lazarus]

Ah, yes: The CE Mark.

When I enforced UK electrical related legislation, we always advised people not to rely on markings alone, but to seek further evidence of compliance (The "Technical File") if in any doubt.

CE does not mean Cannot Enforce ......

 

[Archive4]

Ah, yes: The CE Mark.

When I enforced UK electrical related legislation, we always advised people not to rely on markings alone, but to seek further evidence of compliance (The "Technical File") if in any doubt.

CE does not mean Cannot Enforce ......

Lazarus on a good day!

Edit: I found this too, seems too appropriate not to post, although I will understand if it is removed.

 

[jeallen01]

Lazarus

I spent most of my working life as a safety engineer in the electronic/defence safety business and did a lot of CE marking and related electrical stuff for many companies, and know many of the compliance issues to which you refer - a lot of stuff does come from China, and the markings and documentation can sometimes be rather/very dubious, especially if it comes with the bogus "CE", or "China Export", marking (Google that to see what I mean)!

Edited: It is very difficult for the average consumer to know what to look for and for him/her to get any real documentation to support anything on or in the box.

I have reported several items I received personally to Trading Standards with good reason ("13A plugs with very small bodies and no fuses - saw one of those at my hairdresser's last Xmas and reported it to the manageress. It seems one of her assistants had bought it off ebay, and she was shocked when I told her - and an unshuttered and unfused mains adapter that came with an external USB disk duplicater).

I have reported the current problem to the supplier in question, and think I will also contact TS, as I still have the damaged sample and the box in which it came. Replaced it temporarily with another of the same type to get the PIR light working again, but will be replacing that in short order with something more "reliable" (usually buy anything important from CPC Farnell as they have a reasonably good compliance assurance programme and I have never had safety related issue with stuff from them - especially wall-wart USB chargers where there are many very dubious examples on the market in the UK).

PS: If anyone wants to know more about some of the dubious/dangerous stuff on the European market then look at the EU Commission's RAPEX web page Rapid Alert System Weekly report listings - European Commission - but I doubt if 1 in a thousand (million?) consumers have even heard of it .

 

[Lazarus]

Fortunately I was HSE, not TS, so was chiefly dealing with work equipment, not domestics, and Compliance was generally not only better at source, but more keenly scrutinised by purchasers and users than it is in the wider marketplace.