CCTV advice what to install etc,

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Chris

Thanks - neat bits of kit.

Just come across this Yeskam 8 channel NVR + 6 wireless cameras package - looks quite interesting and seems to fit most of the requirements, but now waiting to find out if it will work with other ONVIF cameras, and also with wired cameras via a router. Would have to add some of the other stuff that I mentioned earlier though.

Any thoughts?

Looks a nice bit of kit

It says it's "onvif compatible" so I would have thought it would work with other onvif compatible cameras. (Doesn't hurt to check)

 

[Terryl]

Yah, nice bit of stuff, but remember, if it's WIFI or internet enabled it can be hacked into and someone else can view you or your stuff, most of the time looking for blind spots.

It has happened here State side.

That's why all my stuff is hardwired and the system can only be viewed on the internal LAN or VPN with the IP addy blocked by a firewall router.

 

[jeallen01]

Yah, nice bit of stuff, but remember, if it's WIFI or internet enabled it can be hacked into and someone else can view you or your stuff, most of the time looking for blind spots.

It has happened here State side.

That's why all my stuff is hardwired and the system can only be viewed on the internal LAN or VPN with the IP addy blocked by a firewall router.

Terry
Your concerns about WiFi connections are also mine - see my first post earlier today (on Page 19). That's why wired connections would be my most favoured solution, but the construction and layout of the property make it almost impossible to achieve that end for all the cameras, and I'm not at all sure about my ability to set up the external VPN connections either.

OTOH, most of the bad boys around here (it's not a "high value" area) seem to be "hit and run" artists with not a lot of technical expertise - so better to have a fairly good system that "works", and is obvious to those guys, than nothing at all (and we also have a very reputable and visible monitored alarm system).

 

[Terryl]

Well in that case use as complicated WIFI password as you can do for your setup.

I use at least a 16 caricature password, the more complicated the better, but wright it down or your stuck.

And make sure the cameras are out of reach, or well hidden.

Here are a few that I have used, the ones that look like rocks and bird houses are the best......Outdoor Spy Camera | Weatherproof Hidden Security Cameras

 

[jeallen01]

Well in that case use as complicated WIFI password as you can do for your setup.

I use at least a 16 caricature password, the more complicated the better, but wright it down or your stuck.

And make sure the cameras are out of reach, or well hidden.

Here are a few that I have used, the ones that look like rocks and bird houses are the best......Outdoor Spy Camera | Weatherproof Hidden Security Cameras

Terry
Very good point about the wireless p/w - although I think you meant "characters" rather than "caricatures" (but that term could well apply to the politicians on both sides of the "Pond" if you know what I mean ).

Most of the cameras would be well out of reach - but very visible (and physically well protected where possible) to the "bad boys" to "dissuade" them from doing anything.

 

[Terryl]

That's what happens when you use an iPad with auto type/correction on, hate using that thing, I shut that feature off but after the thing does an update it's back....(don't know why)...Also it's a bit hard to see in the bar.

I have several CCTV cameras at some very remote radio tower locations, had to put them behind 1 inch thick bullet resistant glass with a 1/2 inch thick steel casing, (stops a .308) the flat landers like to shoot at them.

 

[jeallen01]

I have several CCTV cameras at some very remote radio tower locations, had to put them behind 1 inch thick bullet resistant glass with a 1/2 inch thick steel casing, (stops a .308) the flat landers like to shoot at them.

Luckily we don't have many "bad guys" with that sort of firepower in the UK (or at least we hope so!) - so I'm not planning on needing that sort of protection .

 

[Terryl]

Do you have pellet gun's??? (or can you have) The Gamo Hunter Extreme in .177 from , can break the sound barrier, (1600 FPS) great for small varmints, and will take out a CCTV cam at 100 yards.

 

[Channel Hopper]

Do you have pellet gun's??? (or can you have) The Gamo Hunter Extreme in .177 from , can break the sound barrier, (1600 FPS) great for small varmints, and will take out a CCTV cam at 100 yards.

they're called air-guns over here, the legal limit is (in imperial form) 12 ft lbs, which in .177 form is around 800 fps at the muzzle, or 545 mph.

 

[jeallen01]

Well, I suppose that people could also just throw bricks at the cameras because they would not be that far away from the road (UK properties aren't generally anywhere near as large as US ones, and ours is no exception) - so what is the limit of the protection that you need to provide?

 

[Lazarus]

Varmint. Brilliant word.

 

[jeallen01]

Further to my earlier thoughts - with the current national security status, walking around any UK town carrying an air-rifle (or anything like that!) is likely to get you "noticed" and reported to the cops PDQ (who are then likely to turn up carrying something much more lethal - the Met Police now have shoot-to-kill orders for suicide bombers and the like) - so I don't think I/we have too much to worry about on that score.

 

[John]

... due to an increase of walking pondlife in the area iv'e decided to upgrade my aging DVR & analogue cameras operated over coax cables. I am very impressed with the video quality provided by a multi format Hikvision DS-7208HI-F1/N dvr coupled to a couple of 720p IP cams and the other new cameras are the new-ish TVI format utilising the same coax cable +power feeds. The new TVI format Dome type cams are a couple of 3MP cams and a couple of 2MP 1080p cams, model No Hikvision HiWatch HD-TVI 1080P @ £29 each and the 3MP ones at £36 each. Both the TVI camera's give crystal clear and very sharp images on normal view and give a good resolution image when using Digital zoom.

 

[jeallen01]

Morning

A little more advice would be appreciated as I think I'm definitely going to fit a CCTV system this year.

So, in the Maplin fire sale, the Lorex 1080p 8 Channel 1TB DVR and 4 Camera CCTV Kit (here) is currently going for £343.99 - does that look like a "good deal"? (By comparison, Argos are currently selling what appears to be the same system for £429.99)

NB: I need at least 6 cameras, and so would have to buy a couple more - probably longer range ones to cover the back garden (and also that of my neighbours as I know they are up for it if I do install a system).

 

[Channel Hopper]

Morning

A little more advice would be appreciated as I think I'm definitely going to fit a CCTV system this year.

So, in the Maplin fire sale, the Lorex 1080p 8 Channel 1TB DVR and 4 Camera CCTV Kit (here) is currently going for £343.99 - does that look like a "good deal"? (By comparison, Argos are currently selling what appears to be the same system for £429.99)

NB: I need at least 6 cameras, and so would have to buy a couple more - probably longer range ones to cover the back garden (and also that of my neighbours as I know they are up for it if I do install a system).

A bit late but I have just installed a cctv system at a client's house, consisting of a DVR and two 720P cameras from a company by the name of Annka. There is no hard drive, this has to be added, but comes as an option. What was attractive was the inclusive price of £60 delivered on an Amazon order

The updated version, catering for your original requirements is able to cope with eight cameras and I assume 1080 resolution cameras , but the 720 ones used here are more than adequate for the job.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ANNKE-8-Ch...e=UTF8&qid=1539440577&sr=8-218&keywords=annke

I have a couple of changes to make to the camera housings as these have had to be installed behind glass, but I will provide the modifications on this section once completed.

 

[Channel Hopper]

If you can find your own SATA hard drive then it gets even cheaper.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076LMZHB2/ref=psdc_1939544031_t3_B06XWXL2WP

 

[Terryl]

Do the cameras have on board IR illumination LED's???

If so then if they are behind glass they will be blinded at night by their own IR illumination, unless they are pressed up against the glass.

 

[Channel Hopper]

Do the cameras have on board IR illumination LED's???

If so then if they are behind glass they will be blinded at night by their own IR illumination, unless they are pressed up against the glass.

This is the modification I am currently half way through. Pressing up against double glazing does not fix the issue btw.

 

[Terryl]

They are going to be behind a window??? Sorry thought they were going inside a weather tight box of some sort.

Yah double pane glass is a pain, you wont have very good IR night vision on those cam's.

I've had to go with standard cam's and external IR illumination to fix this problem.

 

[Channel Hopper]

This install requires everything to be internal, hence the science.