Eutelsat Hot Bird 13F & 13G

[Paolo71]

Anyway, without an official Eutelsat list (for each satellite), we cannot be sure if a TXP will belong to 13F or 13G (at the moment we have 4 active satellites in the same position !) or whatever. Signals may vary after few seconds or minutes (don't forget the obstacles in the TX or RX path such as the atmosphere, bad weather, clouds, HPAs power, electronic intermodulation, etc.) for each transponder ! Variations between 0 and 1dB (up to 2dB ) are usual values under normal conditions, growing up to 4...5.......10dB in case of heavy rains.
I prefer to wait for the final values and be sure that in 2 or 3 weeks all the TXPs will be moved to their final destinations.
I repeat, till now there is no trace (I think so) in the transponder data telling us about its transmitting satellite.

 

[Marcus_21]

I know all the problems well, even the ambient temperature affects the gain of the lnb. Mine is a technique that I've been refining for at least 3 months, and if I start a spectrum scan sequence of 24~48 hours, having a total of 5000~10000 images, I can say with good certainty which satellite the signal is coming from.
The most difficult part was found on astra at 19.2°E, where the satellites 1KR and 1L have very similar fluctuations, but with great attention I was still able to discriminate them.
If you wait for an official list from eutelsat, perhaps public, with the trend it is demonstrating on their website (they haven't even put the footprints and no news on the entry into service of the new hotbirds), maybe it will arrive when the new hotbirds 13F, 13G will already be retired....

 

[Marcus_21]

I confirm, the Txp-1 11219 H comes from the hotbirb 13F.

 

[Marcus_21]

This afternoon the Txp-134 and Txp-91 were switched off, both carrying data.

I am attaching a pdf file, with a comparison of the situation on August 26th and today's.

 

[EnoSat]

Hi,
Txp-100 and Txp-101 active ?

PS: have you checked the email about AMOS4?

 

[solly]

we waiting tomorow night replace tp

 

[Paolo71]

we waiting tomorow night replace tp

Tomorrow, one of the Hotbirds TXPs replacement days.

 

[Samoz009]

Tomorrow, one of the Hotbirds TXPs replacement days.

nothing until now

 

[Samoz009]

The frequencies have now been transferred to seven frequencies, including Nova channels
With a very high signal
12168
11823
11295
11938
11804
12521
12130

 

[Marcus_21]

This is what I noticed on the spectrum screenshots, saved last night....

5 low power transponders have been turned on (Txp-91,Txp-1,Txp-18,Txp-6 and Txp-8). Where it is noted that the Txp-18 has a bandwidth of 33MHz (on the old hotbirds it was 24MHz).

Txp-91 12539,02 H = Switched On, Low Power
Txp-1 11219,25 H = Switched On, Low Power
Txp-18 11546,88 V = Switched On, Low Power
Txp-6 11316,72 V = Switched On, Low Power
Txp-8 11355,08 V = Switched On, Low Power

Then several transponders were involved with short power drops or total shutdown and then on again, the list follows.

Txp-118 10872,62 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-17 11526,11 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-10 11393,44 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-129 11095,91 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-73 12168,62 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-16 11508,52 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-157 11642,46 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-5 11295,97 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-7 11334,33 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-3 11257,61 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-55 11823,38 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-92 12558,20 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-61 12015,18 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-90 12519,84 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-54 11804,20 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-71 12130,26 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-116 10834,26 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-96 12634,92 V = Switch to 13?
Txp-117 110853,44 H = Switch to 13?
Txp-155 11604,10 H = Switch to 13?

Almost all transponders have had a slight increase in power, except for the Txp-3,Txp-5,Txp-7 which have remained unchanged, while the Txp-54 and Txp-55 have decreased in power. In the next few hours I will try to understand on which sat they have been turned on.

 

[Marcus_21]

I can't edit the previous post, I report here the correction of the frequency of the Txp-61 (11938,46). 12015,18 H (Txp-65) was not affected, it is still on 13B.

This is the correct list:
Txp-116 10834,26 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-117 10853,44 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-118 10872,62 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-129 11095,91 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-3 11257,61 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-5 11295,97 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-7 11334,33 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-10 11393,44 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-16 11508,52 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-17 11526,13 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-155 11604,10 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-157 11642,46 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-54 11804,20 V = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-55 11823,38 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-61 11938,46 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-71 12130,26 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-72 12168,62 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-90 12519,84 V = From Hotbird 13B to 13?
Txp-92 12558,20 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?
Txp-96 12634,92 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13?

No transponders affecting the Hotbird 13E were affected.

 

[satelliclub]

Marcus_21

A can possibility to 13G's TXP in your list have switched to 13F and 13B TXP have switched to 13G

 

[solly]

The greek provider nova switch 13b to 13f

 

[Marcus_21]

Marcus_21

A can possibility to 13G's TXP in your list have switched to 13F and 13B TXP have switched to 13G

I still need at least 3 or 4 hours to understand on which satellite they have been activated. Hoping that the wind doesn't damage the spectrum images too much... unfortunately today is a windy day.

 

[solly]

Any more tp move tonight ?

 

[satelliclub]

Yes
All SKY Italia's TP and some 13E's TP move tonight to 13F

 

[Marcus_21]

All transponders migrated to Hotbird 13F.

Summary list:
Txp-116 10834,26 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-117 10853,44 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-118 10872,62 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-129 11095,91 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-3 11257,61 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-5 11295,97 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-7 11334,33 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-10 11393,44 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-16 11508,52 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-17 11526,13 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-155 11604,10 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-157 11642,46 H = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-54 11804,20 V = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-55 11823,38 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-61 11938,46 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-71 12130,26 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-73 12168,62 H = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-90 12519,84 V = From Hotbird 13B to 13F
Txp-92 12558,20 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F
Txp-96 12634,92 V = From Hotbird 13G to 13F

Yesterday 4th September:


Today 4th September:


Spectrum video from last night:

 

[Analoguesat]

The 13F tps are putting out a massive signal - a couple of them are a full 2dB above some of them on the other birds on my kit

 

[mianabid]

Sky Italia shifted to new satellite

 

[Marcus_21]

This is the list of transponders transferred during the night:

Txp-53 11785,02 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-56 11842,56 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-57 11861,74 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-58 11880,92 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-59 11900,10 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-62 11957,64 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-63 11976,82 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-64 11996,00 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-66 12034,36 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-67 12053,54 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-69 12091,90 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-75 12206,98 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-77 12245,34 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-82 12341,24 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-83 12360,42 H = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-86 12417,96 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F
Txp-88 12465,91 V = From Hotbird 13E to 13F

Txp-54 11804,20 V = Already migrated last night

This is the spectrum video, it's not really stable due to wind.
You can also see the Txp-54 going down, already transferred yesterday... perhaps an emission change or uplink problem.