FOX MOVIES available in C band now

[Analoguesat]

The picture you posted is the combined east and west hemisphere beams.

Look at this page:

-http://www.flysat.com/nss12-beam.php

It breaks the beams down better. Now we can see in C-band that we have two of the three beams covering us. - the global beam and the west beam.

If you look at the global beam you will see the UK is outside the 33dBW power line. This means its low power and a monster dish is needed (over 3m - not exactly handy for suburban Kent! The west beam is 39dBW - nearer 2m in Kent.

 

[Analoguesat]

ow yeah i know that if you cant see it then ur not gunna get it but im still confused about the global footprint how does that work surly they are limited to what they can see ie one side of the globe also you say that about the yannks how can a feller in south america pick up 19.2 for half a day i kow he has a 12m dish but still like you and i said how is that evan possable?

All geostationary satellites hover above the equator so are above the horizon in both north & south hemispheres. The folk in the southern hemisphere aim their dishes northwards rather than southwards like we do

Most satellites used shaped beam aimed at their designated target zones. Despite the shaped beams there is a miniscule leakage of signal in other directions, so if you have a big enough dish you may be lucky enough to get some reception.

 

[jambon550192]

i see now thats great thanks for clearing that up i supose this is what this fourm is for do we kow the very last satellite inside our horizon? the very last one?

 

[Vipersan]

Its all a question of where in space above the earths surface the satellite is located ..
Say for exaple you want one satellite to be able to beam a signal to both America and Europe
Logically you would position your 'bird' on the clarke belt above the equator ....and postion it half way across the atlantic ..
You could then fire one beam at the usa ..and the other into Europe as both would be visible ....from the satellites position in space ..
because you are firing your beam obliquely at the 2 coastlines they would appear low on the horizon from either land mass ..
From the usa you would point your dish Eastward ...but from Europe it would appear toward the Western horizon ..
rgds
VS

 

[Analoguesat]

The changes for every location and also depends on local conditions


In the UK you can get near enough 61W to 68.5E if you have good LOS. (*)

68.5 E is very low on the horizon and only a few very favoured folk can get it.

(*) there have been one or two reports of 72E but these lucky folk live up hills and have excellent views out to the south-east.

Here I have hills in the way to the east and have never got any further east than 53E, and trees hamper reception past 5E the other way... I can get 30W in one place in the garden in a gap through the trees but as it entails a dish on the main path its not terribly practical

 

[jambon550192]

i would love to take my 2.5 on top of a very high point with a 360 horizon and see what i could get

 

[Vipersan]

Another simple experiment you can do to show how much coverage a global beam gets is this ..
Take a torch and shine it onto a flat sheet of paper holding it at a fixed distance away ..to simulate the satellite in space ..
Now Take a football and hold the torch the same distance from the ball as you did the flat sheet of paper ...
Notice how the beam spreads and covers a greater area ...
This Is an excellent indicator of how a satellite global beam works ...and shows that the weaker signals at the edge of the beams illumination area are usually considered 'fringe' reception areas ..
The beam has further to travel at the edges and thus weaker in power ..
rgds
VS

 

[jambon550192]

thats brill way very true, i was thinking if there have been reports of 72e how far west can we go? if its 68,70w then your easily looking at south america i think they start at 65ish w,

 

[Analoguesat]

I give up.

You dont seem to understand that even if we can see the birds low on the horizon we cant get anything off them as all the far west birds are using shaped beams firing into the Americas. Hispasat 30W is about the last major bird using beams firing into Europe with an appreciable number of channels on it - and we only get the European beams.

 

[Vipersan]

thats brill way very true, i was thinking if there have been reports of 72e how far west can we go? if its 68,70w then your easily looking at south america i think they start at 65ish w,

Well...there have been reports of picking up signals in the form of extreme fringe reception of American birds ....using an extremely large dish positioned on the west coast of Ireland ...
But that was back in the days of analogue ...
In these days of digital transmission I doubt non but the _very largest_ of dishes are capable of resolving anything useful or useable ...that was not intended or broadcast deliberately at Europe..

As Analoguesat says in the post above ...
Its doubtful that youd pick up anything in these days of highly steerable /focused beams that youd get a hint of a signal ...even if you had access to the main dish at Jodrell Bank..
;)

rgds

 

[jambon550192]

thought id ask i didnt know how far west we can go i supose thinking about it there is a rather huge lake between us and the us so its not going to be like ie 65+ east 30w sound rite thanks guys

 

[doktorofsat]

Hello everybody

I want 2 help users who want to receive FOX MOVIES

1st of all I think 4 GB a 150cm pf dish is absolut necesary to get FOX MOVIES, here at my QTH works with smaller one !

Pointing the dish at 57E is not so hard , use the 11180 V 2590 3/4 where is ASIA TV in Ku band, of course

After that U need2know that Tele Tchad (3633 R 2625 2/3) has a stronger signal then FoxMovies and much easier to get!

Also using a Single Polar C band lnb like Inverto and a good depolariser the reception will be good!

Please let me know that smb in GB receive 57E in C band!


BestRegards
DoktorOfSat

 

[adonis1]

Hello everybody
After that U need2know that Tele Tchad (3633 R 2625 2/3) has a stronger signal then FoxMovies and much easier to get!
DoktorOfSat

The strongest signal at my area is 4133 R and MTN Worldwide TV .

 

[doktorofsat]

@adonis1

Very interesting ! I mention only DVB-S signal 'cause a few users has S2 receivers


BestRegards
DoktorOfSat