Multi-stream update @ 5 west

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Could it be the Eutelsat technicians?
I don’t know how these operations work, but when the transponder specifications change or the channels get mixed up on other transponders, the equipment in the terrestrial transmitter needs to be updated so a continuous broadcast is assured, no?
I have no idea why they keep tweaking those transponders on 5W when they have enough capacity on 9E.
I don’t like to see them go on 5W though!
I’ve read somewhere some time ago that the DTT in Italy is getting an upgrade to DVB-T2 and all the channels will become HD quality... maybe this is the reason of the tweaks?
but are it the Eutelsat technicians? Or is it the owner of the DTT network of Italy that is making the changes? Or both maybe?

Well that will solve a lot of capacity problems if they drop Italian SD transmissions on 5 west :)
 

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Well that will solve a lot of capacity problems if they drop Italian SD transmissions on 5 west :)
But they will also need to upgrade some SD only channels to HD quality :') Most of the channels are broadcasted in simulcast SD / HD but a lot of the channels are SD only, I cant say if they will gain capacity or if it will stay status quo when they upgrade to HD broadcast!
 

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The Italian Ministry of Economic Development has published the roadmap for the transition of the digital terrestrial network to DVB-T2/MPEG-4 standard.
The new road map divides the country into four geographical areas and provides for the activation of DVBT/MPEG-4 encoding in the last four months of 2021 and the roll-out of the DVBT-2 standard at national level in the period between 21 June 2022 and 30 June 2022.



 

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So that’s no reason why they are tweaking their transponders at this moment...
I thought that the transition had already started!
 

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I do read in this article the following, though:

“Operators still have the “right to activate DVBT/MPEG-4 encoding or the DVBT-2 standard before the scheduled deadlines”, while “voluntary early scrapping of networks for local operators who request it, with advance payment of the compensation required by law”.“
 

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An observation of Eutelsat 5 West A current geostationary orbit.

EUTE 5 WEST A (STELLAT5)@ 19:30 hrs BST 11/6/20

NORAD ID:
27460
LOCAL TIME:
19:29:40
UTC:
18:29:40
LATITUDE:
0.54° Inclined <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LONGITUDE:
-4.92
ALTITUDE [km]:
35788.07
ALTITUDE [mi]:
22237.68
SPEED [km/s]:
3.07
SPEED [mi/s]:
1.91
AZIMUTH: 186.5 S
ELEVATION:
+31.1
RIGHT ASCENSION:
11h 29m 02s
DECLINATION:
-07° 44' 45''
Local Sidereal Time:
11h 52m 32s
The satellite is in day light
SATELLITE PERIOD:
1437m


EUTE 5 WEST A (STELLAT5) 19:55 hrs BST

NORAD ID:
27460
LOCAL TIME:
19:54:00
UTC:
18:54:00
LATITUDE:
0.55° Inclined <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LONGITUDE:
-4.92
ALTITUDE [km]:
35790.53
ALTITUDE [mi]:
22239.2
SPEED [km/s]:
3.07
SPEED [mi/s]:
1.91
AZIMUTH: 186.5 S
ELEVATION:
+31.1
RIGHT ASCENSION:
11h 53m 26s
DECLINATION:
-07° 44' 04''
Local Sidereal Time:
12h 16m 55s
The satellite is in day light
SATELLITE PERIOD:
1437m

Back to 0.54° Inclined @ 20:50 hrs BST
 

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12669 stream 03 mux La3 is off (Sportitalia HD)
125885 Mediaset 4 is replacing Mediaset 5 on stream01
12606 both streams 111 and 222 are off (Thanks to maumixio for this info)
 

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Rescan transponder & select Renew channels data to reveal the new channel line up that now includes Sport Italia HD :)

Sport Italia HD back on 12585 H 35500 2/3
DVB-S2/8PSK MPEG-4 Multistream (Stream 3)
PLS Gold
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Video pid=1430
Audio pid=1431
 

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Done all that before, of course.

But that TP is as dead as a dodo.

Could be the dodgy Black Ultra I refitted in a rash moment recently. Nearby TPs are full bore.

Edit: I was planning to swap it back soon anyway, so I'll wait for the rain to ease and nip out for the couple of minutes it'll take.
 
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I was planning to swap it back soon anyway, so I'll wait for the rain to ease and nip out for the couple of minutes it'll take.

All done.

That Black Ultra now has an Emergency Spare Only label on it!
 

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12585 is currently dead (Yes, I've updated the SR)

Changes continue ....... Let me know when it's all over!
The Edision Primo thinks it's dead! but do a search on this transponder and it will find the channels! (the same case as with those spanish Aragon channels on 30W)
 

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The Edision Primo thinks it's dead! but do a search on this transponder and it will find the channels! (the same case as with those spanish Aragon channels on 30W)


No, I tried that - It was definitely my faulty Black Ultra. All sorted now.
 

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Persidera Network on 12543 H 34200 no signals now,
 

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Is there any hope the RAI channels might stay on 5w? No RAI transponder on 9e yet.
 

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New Multi-Stream @ 5 west

Eutelsat 5West B 12535 H 31400

Mediaset
Stream 1 - Cario Due 8572-263
La 7 w F 970 971 Ita 711
La7d w F 990 991 Ita 712
La 7 HD w F 1530 1532 Ita 751
MPEG-4/HD
La 7d HD w F 1540 1542 Ita 752
MPEG-4/HD

Stream 3 - Dfree 272-900
Mediaset Italia 2 w 440 441 Ita
442 Eng 7066
7166
Premium Cinema 1 w 640 641 Ita
642 Eng 7122
Nagravision
Videoguard
Premium Cinema 2 w 460 461 Ita
462 Eng 7123
Nagravision
Videoguard
Premium Cinema Comedy w 420 421 Ita
422 Eng 7125
Nagravision
Videoguard
TV 243 F 3050 3051 Ita 7180
TV 153 F 3690 3691 Ita 7190
Sportitalia w F 1690 1691 Ita 7191
Tele Padre Pio w F 650 651 Ita 7192
Radio Zeta Radiovisione w F 1040 1041 Ita 7195
-R- Radio R101 w 962 Ita 7102
-R- Radio 105 w 961 Ita 7103
-R- Virgin Radio Italia w 965 Ita 7104
-R- Radio Monte Carlo w 963 Ita 7105

Stream 4 - Mediaset 2 272-905
Boing Italia w F 1680 1681 Ita 145
Cartoonito Italia w F 1820 1821 Ita 147
20 Mediaset w F 620 621 Ita
622 Eng 2019
2020
2120
TOPcrime w F 1770 1771 Ita
1772 Eng 2121
2150
Focus Italia w F 1780 1781 Ita
1782 Eng 2122
2151
Mediaset Extra w F 1760 1761 Ita 2123
2152
Food Network Italia w F 1030 1031 Ita 2148
QVC Italia w F 100 101 Ita 2149
 

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Multi-Stream @ 5 west update
12585 H 35500 2/3
DVB-S2/8PSK
Multistream
Mediaset w E5WB
Stream 3 - La 3 (602 MHz) 272-810
Sportitalia HD 1480 1481 Ita 8201
Diver test SD Video pid =256 Audio pid =272 (New)
 

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I updated my channel list last weekend... I can start over again with all those changes ;-)
 
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