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There are 2 more new stations added, all together 28 (!). Very big mux but on average low bitrate, except maybe Salisbury Radio who uses only DAB not DAB+ :-ohmy

10ºE - Salisbury - 11221V,30000,3/4,QPSK/DVB-S2
Ensemble: Salisbury (0xc1d8)
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# Programme Label Serv.Id. P/S SubCh Capac.Units Prot. Bitrate Mode
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1: Virgin Radio (0xc3d8) Prm 18 24 (490-513) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
2: Nation 00s (0xc2fd) Prm 15 24 (418-441) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
3: Tomorrowland OWR (0xc2c3) Prm 19 24 (514-537) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
4: Hot Salisbury (0xcfc2) Prm 10 18 (322-339) eep-3a 24 Kb/s DAB+
5: BFBS Rewind (0xc9c5) Prm 20 24 (538-561) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
6: Nation 60s (0xccf1) Prm 23 24 (610-633) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
7: Easy Radio (0xcbf2) Prm 22 24 (586-609) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
8: Times Radio (0xc0d8) Prm 16 24 (442-465) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
9: Nation Rocks (0xc2fb) Prm 24 24 (634-657) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
10: Nation Dance (0xc2e7) Prm 25 24 (658-681) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
11: Angel Vintage (0xcdc2) Prm 5 24 (108-131) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
12: Nation Love (0xc2ec) Prm 26 24 (682-705) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
13: BFBS BestBritish (0xc9c4) Prm 21 24 (562-585) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
14: TalkRadio (0xcaeb) Prm 17 24 (466-489) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
15: BOOM LIGHT (0xc9c2) Prm 14 18 (400-417) eep-3a 24 Kb/s DAB+
16: Hot Gold S'bury (0xc1c3) Prm 11 18 (340-357) eep-3a 24 Kb/s DAB+
17: Salisbury Radio (0xc2c1) Prm 6 84 (132-215) uep-3 112 Kb/s DAB
18: BFBS Salisbury (0xc991) Prm 1 36 ( 0- 35) eep-3a 48 Kb/s DAB+
19: AspenWaite Radio (0xccea) Prm 13 18 (382-399) eep-3a 24 Kb/s DAB+
20: Radio Bath (0xcbec) Prm 8 24 (274-297) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
21: Nation Radio (0xc485) Prm 12 24 (358-381) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
22: RETUNE (0xc487) Prm 7 58 (216-273) uep-3 80 Kb/s DAB
23: BFBS Beats (0xced6) Prm 2 24 ( 36- 59) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
24: Like One (0xceeb) Prm 9 24 (298-321) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
25: BFBS Edge (0xc4f1) Prm 4 24 ( 84-107) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
26: BFBS Gurkha (0xc2fc) Prm 3 24 ( 60- 83) eep-3a 32 Kb/s DAB+
27: Grt Hits S'bury (0xc5f4) Prm 7 58 (216-273) uep-3 80 Kb/s DAB
28: BBC Radio Wilts (0xcc32) Prm 27 48 (706-753) eep-3a 64 Kb/s DAB+
 

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Here's a quick video of the Salisbury mux decoded from 10°E with the tools already mentioned just this afternoon -

 

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A quick guide:

assuming you have the transponder stored in your box, we have to create the service for receiving the radios.
in this case we know the PID where the stream is broadcasted (701), so we create a new service whit dreamboxedit editing one of the channels of the bouquet:
View attachment 141786
In the extra parameters i tell the box to use the pid 701 (c:15=use pid 02bd=701 in HEX)
Now you have to send the new channel to your box and restart enigma2.

We are ready to see what's inside the stream: connect to your box using telnet and send this command:
Code:
wget http://localhost:8001/1:0:1:21FD:1:10:640000:0:0:0: -q -O- | fedi2eti 701 239.232.1.201 4000 | ni2out --list

I spent the whole day trying to follow this very clear and straight-forward tutorial without success. How to establish the problem spot?!
I uploaded ETI tools as suggested, applied 755 rights, freshly scanned the transponder, created the channel, but the command send via Telnet resulted in this (no channel list):

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could you try the same command using windows telnet terminal?

(Just in case: in "Windows power shell" type "telnet <ip.of.your.box>")
 

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One question boys,
when I do telnet on my STB and try to use 'ni2out --list' with DAB format ts2na,tsniv2ni,fedi2eti or ts2ni at the end, there is no problem with that.

See example below for D1 DAB UK - 9.0ºE 12092H 27500 3/4 8PSK/DVB-S2
wget 127.0.0.1:8001/1:0:1:48D:1AF4:9E:5A0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | ts2na -p 1062 -s 12 | na2ni | ni2out --list
and i get
Ensemble: D1 National (0xc181)
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# Programme Label Serv.Id. P/S SubCh Capac.Units Prot. Bitrate Mode
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1: Heart 90s (0xcbe9) Prm 18 30 (562-591) eep-3a 40 Kb/s DAB+
2: Capital XTRA (0xc37b) Prm 16 30 (592-621) eep-3a 40 Kb/s DAB+
....
Question : is there the way to do it with mpe2aac/mpe2mpa signals ? For example

Polski radio - 7ºE 12515V 1303 3/4 DVB-S, DVB-MPE
wget 127.0.0.1:8001/1:0:1:7DA:1:7:460000:0:0:0: -q -O- | mpe2aac 2030 230.0.0.30 10030
or
62ºE - Romania DAB (format DVB-MPE) - 11485 H,1161,2/3,QPSK/DVB-S2

Seems to me, that '| ni2out --list' is not "valid" for that kind of format...or am i wrong ?
 

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Question : is there the way to do it with mpe2aac/mpe2mpa signals ? For example

Seems to me, that '| ni2out --list' is not "valid" for that kind of format...or am i wrong ?

You're right, is not valid.
DAB radio are trasmitted in a mux using the ETI-NI format (or ETI-NA).
The various tools we use convert the stream in the "NI" format and that stream can be decoded by ETI-Tools:
if you think about it in the command:
Code:
wget 127.0.0.1:8001/1:0:1:48D:1AF4:9E:5A0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | ts2na -p 1062 -s 12 | na2ni | ni2out --list
you use: ts2na (Transport Stream to NA format) and then na2ni (from Fromat NA to format NI) and then ni2out (from "NI" to output list)
Of course this is a very basic explanation, more info HERE.

mpe2aac simply convert a MPeg Encapsulated audio stream in AAC (Normally the audio is encapsulated in a UDP stream)
 

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I may have found the problem with the aac960 channels and a workaround!

The problem is Gstreamer, the one installed in satdreamgr even if older can play AAC960 using correct libavcodec, the one installed in OpenATV, even if newer, can't.
I tried upgrading OpenATV gstreamer including missing libraries but without success.

So i installed "ServiceApp" which is a service allowing to select the player to use (in OpenATV normally we have 2 player installed: Gstreamer (Default) and exteplayer3).
If you look in your bouquet file, you'll notice that all the iptv services begins with 4097 which means "Default Player" so Gstreamer
If i use 5002 instead of 4097 enigma2 will use exteplayer3 as player and guess what..... exteplayer3 can play AAC960!

So, for the moment, if you want to listen to AAC960 in openATV you must:

1) Install serviceapp

opkg install enigma2-plugin-systemplugins-serviceapp

2) Manually edit your dab bouquet file changing 4097 with 5002 ( or edit using dreamset choosing Stream Type=non-TS (exteplayer3) )
I.e. this is my line for Virgin Anthems in the SDL dab Service on 9E:
Code:
#SERVICE 5002:0:2:1:0:5:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ts2na/1%3a0%3a1%3a492%3a1AF4%3a9E%3a5A0000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1063/12/0xc7e6:Virgin Anthems
#DESCRIPTION Virgin Anthems

That's all for now
It seems to that this problem is only present on sf8008, on sf4008 doesn't seems to have a problem. I've read in another forum for sf8008, i only own 4008.
 
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SF8008 work as others box
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could you try the same command using windows telnet terminal?

(Just in case: in "Windows power shell" type "telnet <ip.of.your.box>")
Thank you for bearing with me, Cirio70.
Thanks to colleagues from another forum I've established that I didn't have Telnet installed at all.:-ohcrap But that's the situation with me, total computing analphabet.

To the situation; I tried the italian DAB+ on 9E, 11.727 V.
Telnet brings me this:
telnet.png

I used the files from this post, applied 755 rights, created/adjusted the channel entry in Dreamboxedit...

usrbin.png
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11727V.png

Where's my missing point?!
 

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missing file tsniv2ni
 

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Where's my missing point?!
From what i see you didn't install tsniv2ni (it's missing from the file list you posted) and if you read carefully on the telnet window it says "Command not found".
Try the SDL National on 9E - 12062H. It needs "ts2na" and "na2ni" that you have installed
Or install the missing file (it's taken from my Octagon so it should work): place it in \usr\bin ang give permissions, then reboot and try
 

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Grazie, amico! Half way success ... got the SDL National

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... while the Italians result in this. I assume something wrong with the "tsniv2ni" file?!

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I am kindly asking for additional help ... step-by-step...
I managed to get sorted all channels for SDL National and D1 National muxes on 12.092 H.

Currently working on Salisbury ... what should be put into service details for these channels?! Whatever I tried ... total silence.

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Solved this as well, thanks to individuals from this forum.
 

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