RAI DAB+ feed from 5 West

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andimik said:
No, you should not. Please don't mix them up.
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Right, technically not to be mixed up but ... for "organizational & artistic" reasons on my receiver I put them together with DAB.
I could have expressed myself differently in that post indeed.
 
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no, 12603 use normal TS , 11604 use IP
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19E/11604V - WDR
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Nice find! It's a copy of 23.5°E 12645 V 2200 (19.2°E 11604 V 2200), with the two WDR DAB multiplexes -

Code: 
tune-s2 11604 V 2200 -system DVB-S -lnb UNIVERSAL -adapter 1
status Locked | signal -31.8 dBm | snr 15.0 dB | ber 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
Closing frontend ...

Code: 
 dvbstream -c 1 -o 3000 | fedi2eti 3000 228.10.1.5 10010 | ni2out --list
using pid 3000 ip 228.10.1.5 port 10010
dvbstream v0.7.01 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
Released under the GPL.
Latest version available from http://dvbtools.sourceforge.net/
dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
Output to stdout
Streaming 2 streams
[04/21/24 07:16:53] Initialise next pseq to 35191
[04/21/24 07:16:53] EDI-AF: Packet sequence error
Radio fuer NRW   (0x10ec)
 0 : WDR 2 OWL        (0xd592) Pri subch=18 start=594 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 1 : WDR 2 RHEIN-RUHR (0xd792) Pri subch=16 start=486 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 2 : WDR 2 RUHRGEBIET (0xd692) Pri subch=17 start=540 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 3 : WDR Maus         (0xdf95) Pri subch= 2 start= 54 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
 4 : WDRcosmo         (0xd496) Pri subch= 5 start=204 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
 5 : 1LIVE diGGi      (0xdf91) Pri subch= 3 start=102 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 6 : WDR 4            (0xd394) Pri subch=14 start=360 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 7 : WDR 2 RHEINLAND  (0xd392) Pri subch= 7 start=288 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 8 : 1LIVE            (0xd391) Pri subch= 1 start=  0 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 9 : WDR 3            (0xd393) Pri subch=15 start=414 CUs= 72 PL=eep-3a bitrate=96 DAB+
10 : WDR 5            (0xd395) Pri subch= 4 start=156 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
11 : WDR Event        (0xdf96) Pri subch= 6 start=252 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
12 : WDR 2 BERG.-LAND (0xdc92) Pri subch=22 start=810 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
13 : WDR 2 S�DWESTF   (0xdb92) Pri subch=21 start=756 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
14 : WDR 2 M�NSTERL   (0xda92) Pri subch=20 start=702 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
15 : WDR 2 AACHEN     (0xd492) Pri subch=19 start=648 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+

Code: 
dvbstream -c 1 -o 3000 | fedi2eti 3000 228.10.2.5 10010 | ni2out --list
using pid 3000 ip 228.10.2.5 port 10010
dvbstream v0.7.01 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
Released under the GPL.
Latest version available from http://dvbtools.sourceforge.net/
dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
Output to stdout
Streaming 2 streams
[04/21/24 07:18:56] Initialise next pseq to 40317
[04/21/24 07:18:56] EDI-AF: Packet sequence error
K9A              (0x10fa)
 0 : Test 6           (0xd494) Pri subch= 6 start=440 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 1 : Test 8           (0xda94) Pri subch= 8 start=616 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 2 : Test 2           (0xd692) Pri subch= 2 start= 88 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 3 : Test 1           (0xd392) Pri subch= 1 start=  0 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 4 : Test 9           (0xd694) Pri subch= 9 start=704 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 5 : Test 3           (0xd492) Pri subch= 3 start=176 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 6 : Test 4           (0xdc92) Pri subch= 4 start=264 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 7 : Test 7           (0xd394) Pri subch= 7 start=528 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 8 : Test 5           (0xda92) Pri subch= 5 start=352 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+

K9A with the Test entries is due to launch terrestrially soon with additional regional versions of WDR2 and WDR4.
 
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Thanks, @Adam792, for the DAB identification and tests.:Y
I'm currently listening to this WDR stream and K9A in a test.
 

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Hm, why am I normally getting the ensamble for 11D but not for 9A?!

11D.png 9A.png
 
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It's the same WDR 11D stream on 12645 V from 23.5E
There are two streams in 228.10.1.5 and 228.10.2.5.
 
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I know, that's why I am wondering why 228.10.2.5. doesn't yield any channels even if tests.
 
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Strangely, although stream 2 WDR displays the list and images, I don't hear any sound.
I seem to be missing the right codec, although it is okay on stream one.
 

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I don't think it's codec problem. The stations are mute except for "Test9" where i can hear an audio tone.
The codec used is the usual HE-AAC.
Funny that i can receive the DL+ and the Slideshow.
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Adam792 said:
Nice find! It's a copy of 23.5°E 12645 V 2200 (19.2°E 11604 V 2200), with the two WDR DAB multiplexes -

Code: 
tune-s2 11604 V 2200 -system DVB-S -lnb UNIVERSAL -adapter 1
status Locked | signal -31.8 dBm | snr 15.0 dB | ber 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
Closing frontend ...

Code: 
 dvbstream -c 1 -o 3000 | fedi2eti 3000 228.10.1.5 10010 | ni2out --list
using pid 3000 ip 228.10.1.5 port 10010
dvbstream v0.7.01 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
Released under the GPL.
Latest version available from http://dvbtools.sourceforge.net/
dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
Output to stdout
Streaming 2 streams
[04/21/24 07:16:53] Initialise next pseq to 35191
[04/21/24 07:16:53] EDI-AF: Packet sequence error
Radio fuer NRW   (0x10ec)
 0 : WDR 2 OWL        (0xd592) Pri subch=18 start=594 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 1 : WDR 2 RHEIN-RUHR (0xd792) Pri subch=16 start=486 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 2 : WDR 2 RUHRGEBIET (0xd692) Pri subch=17 start=540 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 3 : WDR Maus         (0xdf95) Pri subch= 2 start= 54 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
 4 : WDRcosmo         (0xd496) Pri subch= 5 start=204 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
 5 : 1LIVE diGGi      (0xdf91) Pri subch= 3 start=102 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 6 : WDR 4            (0xd394) Pri subch=14 start=360 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 7 : WDR 2 RHEINLAND  (0xd392) Pri subch= 7 start=288 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 8 : 1LIVE            (0xd391) Pri subch= 1 start=  0 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 9 : WDR 3            (0xd393) Pri subch=15 start=414 CUs= 72 PL=eep-3a bitrate=96 DAB+
10 : WDR 5            (0xd395) Pri subch= 4 start=156 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
11 : WDR Event        (0xdf96) Pri subch= 6 start=252 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
12 : WDR 2 BERG.-LAND (0xdc92) Pri subch=22 start=810 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
13 : WDR 2 S�DWESTF   (0xdb92) Pri subch=21 start=756 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
14 : WDR 2 M�NSTERL   (0xda92) Pri subch=20 start=702 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
15 : WDR 2 AACHEN     (0xd492) Pri subch=19 start=648 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+

Code: 
dvbstream -c 1 -o 3000 | fedi2eti 3000 228.10.2.5 10010 | ni2out --list
using pid 3000 ip 228.10.2.5 port 10010
dvbstream v0.7.01 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
Released under the GPL.
Latest version available from http://dvbtools.sourceforge.net/
dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
Output to stdout
Streaming 2 streams
[04/21/24 07:18:56] Initialise next pseq to 40317
[04/21/24 07:18:56] EDI-AF: Packet sequence error
K9A              (0x10fa)
 0 : Test 6           (0xd494) Pri subch= 6 start=440 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 1 : Test 8           (0xda94) Pri subch= 8 start=616 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 2 : Test 2           (0xd692) Pri subch= 2 start= 88 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 3 : Test 1           (0xd392) Pri subch= 1 start=  0 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 4 : Test 9           (0xd694) Pri subch= 9 start=704 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 5 : Test 3           (0xd492) Pri subch= 3 start=176 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 6 : Test 4           (0xdc92) Pri subch= 4 start=264 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 7 : Test 7           (0xd394) Pri subch= 7 start=528 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+
 8 : Test 5           (0xda92) Pri subch= 5 start=352 CUs= 88 PL=eep-2a bitrate=88 DAB+

K9A with the Test entries is due to launch terrestrially soon with additional regional versions of WDR2 and WDR4.
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i scanned with my octagon sf8008 but not get any channel but have good signal
any help for listem that radios?
thanks for help
 
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manual update lamedb
Code: 
00c0ad54:0001:0001
    s 11604000:2200000:1:3:192:2:0
/
Code: 
0001:00c0ad54:0001:0001:2:0:0
DAB WDR 11604 V
p:DAB,c:150bb8,f:4
update astra.conf and create userbouquet for streams from astra-sm
 
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cirio70 said:
I don't think it's codec problem. The stations are mute except for "Test9" where i can hear an audio tone.
The codec used is the usual HE-AAC.
Funny that i can receive the DL+ and the Slideshow.
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It seems like they’re probably just silent while they start terrestrial testing in Germany (I saw somewhere the other day that some 9A transmitters have started up). When this feed started a few months ago on 23.5°E it was carrying the actual sound of various WDR2 and WDR4 regional variations, with real service labels rather than “Test 1” etc.
 
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Right, 9A used to run normally before, maybe this has to do with the network migration from 23.5E > 19.2E?!

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EnoSat said:
manual update lamedb
Code: 
00c0ad54:0001:0001
    s 11604000:2200000:1:3:192:2:0
/
Code: 
0001:00c0ad54:0001:0001:2:0:0
DAB WDR 11604 V
p:DAB,c:150bb8,f:4
update astra.conf and create userbouquet for streams from astra-sm
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thank you
 
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Satfaca said:
Right, 9A used to run normally before, maybe this has to do with the network migration from 23.5E > 19.2E?!

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hi! with the help of Enosat (great work) because he posted the lamedb with the specifications.
now i can listen the dab radio channels on the stream 228.10.1.5
but on the stream 228.10.2.5 i cant...
any help? im talking about 19e
thanks in advanced
 
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These are tests.
 
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