Spanish tv in the uk (london)

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Repeating my question from early on: have you asked her what channels she used to get/watch on the old receiver?

That might clarify which channels on which satellites need to be received with a new receiver - and whether or not you might be "getting yourself" into "dangerous" areas w.r.t, the "legality" if a genuine subscription is needed to do that.
Thanks for getting back to me. The problem is that she doesn’t really remember (she’s 90). But I’ve eeked out that it might have been an Andalusian channel or that was its name. She says that she had only a few channels and didn’t pay for them.

What I don’t understand is that from above posts I should have f
Ok I will spell it out for you as you seem unable to join the dots, programme/channel piracy is illegal, so firstly you are committing a crime yourself by buying and using equipment allowing you to steal from programme providers, secondly most sellers of illegal satellite pirate equipment are stealing from programme providers for financial gain, the money from which could be going to more serious criminal activities, for example drugs production/trafficking, prostitution, people trafficking, the same equally applies to IPTV pirate equipment,you simply have no idea what the repercussions could be buying a 'hookie' piece of equipment from Fleebay or Jungle Jims.
Perhaps I was naive in that I thought that buying a decoder on Amazon and plugging into existing set up is all OK. I should perhaps have been clearer in my original post - I was only looking for free channels. If what I am attempting to do is illegal i.e. there is no such thing as free Spanish channels (I believe that some countries / companies allow their channels to be watched for free e.g. TVP Polonia) I will stop. No issues with that. However, perhaps as an addendum to your advise, you could let me know how I could go about getting free Spanish channels. If this isn't possible, perhaps some advise on how to go about paying for this service with either the existing set up or a new set up. Many thanks.
 

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Repeating my question from early on: have you asked her what channels she used to get/watch on the old receiver?

That might clarify which channels on which satellites need to be received with a new receiver - and whether or not you might be "getting yourself" into "dangerous" areas w.r.t, the "legality" if a genuine subscription is needed to do that.
I believe she had either an Andalusian channel or had Andalusian in its name. She only had 4 or 5 channels. Perhaps less. As per my previous post, I only want to get free or better described legally free channels. Or advise on how to get a subscription service. Many thanks.
 

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PS: If you can, look at the direction in which her dish is pointing - and then at the directions in which any other dishes thereabouts seem to be pointing,

If the latter are pointing further East, then her's is almost certainly aimed at 30W (Hispasat)

OTOH, if they are pointing further West, then her's is almost certainly pointing at either 19E (the Astra 1 complex) or 13E (the Hotbird complex).
 

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I believe she had either an Andalusian channel or had Andalusian in its name. She only had 4 or 5 channels. Perhaps less.

Are we assuming rightly, that it is a fixed dish (fixed to just one satellite position), and not a motorized dish?
In that case doing a scan with a new (or second-hand) HD/dvb-s2 receiver will give the channels-info on what satellite position the dish is aimed. And we can find the spanish channels on that.
When you are wanting to add channels from from other satellites for her, that would mean making a multifeed setup at the dish, or adding a dish when the satellites are further away from each other.

greetz,
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..., you could let me know how I could go about getting free Spanish channels.
...

If I had a nice 22 year old Spanish neighbor lady, I would have ordered and installed in her garden the following set up :
One Triax TD 110 dish pointed to 30°W
One Inverto Black Ultra Single LNB
One Linux Enigma2 receiver Edision OS Nino Pro DVB-S2 & T2 Muilti stream.
(the receiver does not need to be connected to Internet)
And the beautiful Spanish Señorita will be very happy.
She might want me to teach her how to use www.dishpointer.eu

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https://www.triax.com/products/sate...dishes/td110-std-ral-7035-singlepack-wing-nut
Single HGLN 40mm LNB
OS NINO PRO S2X + T2/C Rose Gold
Satellite Dish Pointer with Google Maps, Location Detection
 

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TBH, many people are "missing the point" that this old lady just wants to be able to see the handful (i.e. 4 or 5) of Spanish channels that she knows and likes - she'll not be interested in anything else, and probably would be both confused and "scared" to try anything else with a new receiver that she'll have a lot of trouble in understanding and "navigating" anyway.

I can say this with "some certainty" having, many years ago, set up an ASTRA2 Sky dish for my mother-in-law - then in her 80's - but she then hardy ever watched anything other than a handful of the mainstream channels from the BBC or ITV for 2 reasons = that was what she wanted to watch, and because she "knew" which r/c buttons to press to get those - but had no idea of what "all those other buttons" did.
 

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Thanks for getting back to me. The problem is that she doesn’t really remember (she’s 90). But I’ve eeked out that it might have been an Andalusian channel or that was its name. She says that she had only a few channels and didn’t pay for them.

What I don’t understand is that from above posts I should have f

Perhaps I was naive in that I thought that buying a decoder on Amazon and plugging into existing set up is all OK. I should perhaps have been clearer in my original post - I was only looking for free channels. If what I am attempting to do is illegal i.e. there is no such thing as free Spanish channels (I believe that some countries / companies allow their channels to be watched for free e.g. TVP Polonia) I will stop. No issues with that. However, perhaps as an addendum to your advise, you could let me know how I could go about getting free Spanish channels. If this isn't possible, perhaps some advise on how to go about paying for this service with either the existing set up or a new set up. Many thanks.

I'm pretty much 100% certain that the channel you're/she's referring to will be Canal Sur Andalucía which is the international version of Andalucian public television from Southern Spain. This is on Astra 1 at 19.2°E and is free to air, so perfectly legal to watch here!

To get this you just need a cheap free to air satellite receiver, connected to a dish pointing in the correct direction (a Sky minidish is easily big enough for Astra 1 as the signal is pretty strong).

The other free to air Spanish channels available on the same satellite position are:

Canal Extremadura Sat
Aragón TV International
Cubavisión (Cuban international service)
RT Español (Russian news/propoganda-style channel in Spanish)

Plus also until 15th January (when they will change over to different satellites at 13°E):

TVE Internacional (international version of Spanish public TV)
24H (Spanish public 24 hour news service).

If you've got a new receiver and connected it to the current dish your neighbour uses, try if you can to do a scan from the menus of it to scan the following transponder -

Frequency: 11156
Polarisation: Vertical
Symbol Rate: 22000
FEC: 5/6
Mode: DVB-S

If it's all working, that should bring in a handful of channels, most of which encrypted and unwatchable, but also the Andalucian channel (Canal Sur Andalucia) which should be viewable (it's labelled as "CANAL SUR A.").
 

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Many thanks - looks like that clarifies what the lady has been looking at!

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Ref the above and the dish - the existing dish will get all she needs on 19E until the two channels move to Hotbird on 15th Jan. After that it would need feeds from 19E and 13E to keep access to all those channels.

If the existing dish is a standard UK "Zone 1" or"Zone 2" dish then you might be able to fit a 2nd LNB onto it for 13E, but the 2nd one would be very close to/touching the existing one and that would compromise reception of 13E channels.

A better solution would be a standard "non-Sky" 60 cm dish with a "6 degree monobloc" LNB (that's 2x LNBs in a single housing with the beam of one offset by 6 degrees,, with a built-in DiSEqC "A/B" switch to select between them) as that would pick up both sats pretty well and should be easier to set up than 2x separate LNBs.

The latter would look similar to the Triax TD78 dish shown in Image 5 of the "We see no dishes!" thread that I posted on Christmas Day as that has a 6 degree monobloc for 19E and 13E!
 
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Let's hope and pray this solves the issue, it certainly highlights the need for solid information before posting to avoid going down dead ends, however to myself, it also begs the question, what is a 90 year old lady from Spain doing in London alone without any family support to fix these kinds of things for her? I moved my mum to a residential care home near me when she reached 86 to avoid the 60 mile daily round trip, does she not have any children or grandchildren nearby?
 

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The opening post looks to be concise and clearly written (to me).

Additionally the lady has good neighbours, one of which is sorting her television viewing out among other things. I too had been with a local elderly Spanish lady a month ago, initially to take down a system, I offered to carry out some other work as recompense.

 

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...- she'll not be interested in anything else, ...

Me, I do think that she will be interested in watching BOM Cine, Taro TVision, Hispasat HD etc.

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That transponder appears to be on 30W - might be an issue for @krys_k1 if he isn't in a position to install a 2nd dish aimed at that sat.
 

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Forget about 30W
the afore mentioned30W channels are totally worthless-ads and religious propaganda!
the only good ones are the "handful" on Astra 1 (19E)and ,now,on Hotbird(13E)
and you just need to fit a monobloc on a 60 or,better, 80 cm basic,cheap dish
I think monobloc LNBs are designed for 80 cm dishes,and are very common in my area...
 

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There is no religious propaganda in A7, A8, Aragon TV HD, HD Castilla-Lamancha,BOM Cinema & Tdp. The others are tarot services.
These ladies are professional fortune tellers. There is nothing illegal about watching these channels.
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I don't know "Bom Cine" ,is it a real movie channel?
it s just a little awkward to have one dish just for these channels... as 30W is far apart from13E and 19E!!
Maybe other channels will join the 13E Spanish group,let's hope for this to happen!
Feliz anio para todas y todos!!
 

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you should also read between the lines
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I'm Andalusian too and I agree with Adam792.
Old people in Andalusia love Canal Sur, the regional channel, the international version on Astra 19.2° East is named CANAL SUR A.
There are many FTA German channels on Astra 19.2° East, you can do a manual search on TP:
- Frequency: 11156 MHz
- Polarity: Vertical
- SR: 22000 kS/s

Or you can do a complete search on Astra 19.2° East with NIT (or Network) option activated, and search the channel in the list.

And there are many FTA Italian channels on Eutelsat Hot Bird 13° East. You told you get many German and Italian channels, have you configured DiSEqC?
Manual search on TP 12303 V 27500 Hot Bird 13° East to get TVE Internacional and
24H
, national channels of her interest, I think.
 

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Looks like 19E is "the place to be" for that lady.
 

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I don't know "Bom Cine" ,is it a real movie channel?

BOM Cine is a television channel that broadcasts movies in several Autonomous Communities of Spain. At present, BOM Cine is present in the Community of Madrid, Andalusia, Region of Murcia, Valencian Community and the localities of Vigo and Tuy, where it broadcasts under the name of A Nove.

Looks like 19E is "the place to be" for that lady.

The right "place to be" for the lady is a shop of installer of satellite dishes in London. There she will explain to him that there is no connection to Internet in her house. She must insist that she wants to watch all the available channels (in Spanish) from 30°W & 19°E & 13°E without any paid subscription (legal or illegal). The only type of receiver she has to accept to buy from him is a full HD (or 4K) Linux Enigma2 with multi stream tuner (Edision or Octagon). So, the lady will have 2 dishes, one for 30°W and one for 13°E + 19°E, 3 LNB will be connected to a 4/1 DiSEqC ( 3 or 1dВ).
What she absolutely must refuse is any solution requiring an internet connection!!!
 

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And you "really think that all that is going to happen"!:rolleyes:

TBH: I'm not surprised that @krys_k1 hasn't been "back here" in the last day or so because he is probably so overwhelmed with all the "complicated solutions" being "suggested" to him that he's nearly on the point of giving up on taking ANY notice of what "you" are saying, even if - and this is with great respect for what he is trying to do for this 90 year old lady - he does understand them:(.

You are trying to "use a sledgehammer to crack a nut" (and that's a "nut" with a very thin "shell") as we say in the UK - so please be far more realistic in matching the "needs" and the "solutions", or else just stopping commenting at all in this thread! :rolleyes:
 
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