TV with DVB-S2X tuners

[Lazarus]

By the time you buy one 8K will be out

But can our ageing eyes discern much difference?

I used to consider Audio THD important until my hearing went tits up!

 

[blademedia]

But can our ageing eyes discern much difference?

I used to consider Audio THD important until my hearing went tits up!

No not really I have a older 4k and a newer oldg whatever its called, I cant tell difference on both, both are cheap tvs, ive been in shops and looked at £3000 ones and cant see any difference to my £600 one.

 

[Lazarus]

Rule of thumb: Acknowledge technological advance; Wait until cost drops towards 200 sovs; Wait until the Sales.

 

[blademedia]

Wait until cost drops towards 200 sovs; Wait until the Sales.

Later this year when 8k comes out

8K TV From Samsung & LG Show off the Future of TV

 

[Channel Hopper]

Rule of thumb: Acknowledge technological advance; Wait until cost drops towards 200 sovs; Wait until the Sales.

Then look in the neighbour's skip for their discarded one.

 

[Lazarus]

Then look in the neighbour's skip for their discarded one.

Take twelve Honorary Yorkshireman points.

 

[sat-tv-fan]

Later this year when 8k comes out

8K TV From Samsung & LG Show off the Future of TV

Hmm link is about last year actually

 

[Analoguesat]

Im more than a bit surprised to discover my UH650V has an analogue tv tuner in it! Handy to patch into the distribution system for the satellite boxes though

 

[sat-tv-fan]

Im more than a bit surprised to discover my UH650V has an analogue tv tuner in it! Handy to patch into the distribution system for the satellite boxes though

Or if you get hold of a Band I tv antenna you could receive some of the remaining analogue stuff from Eastern Europe during a sporadic E opening ?!

 

[Analoguesat]

Or if you get hold of a Band I tv antenna you could receive some of the remaining analogue stuff from Eastern Europe during a sporadic E opening ?!

No point really - Im in quite a deep valley with most directions apart from north & south blocked.

 

[sat-tv-fan]

No point really - Im in quite a deep valley with most directions apart from north & south blocked.

Hmm same here but I've always done well, height ASL etc is not really a problem for Band 1

 

[Adam792]

Got a couple of new LG TVs in the house over the last few months, so out of interest I had a look over the weekend whether I could lock the DVB-S2X TF1 Suisse transponder on 33°E (finally live somewhere with an unobstructed view from the garden past about 19.2°E!)

Couldn't lock the transponder on either TV, the only stuff that I got was the standard DVB-S2 France 24 HEVC transponder and the mainly encrypted Polsat Polish DVB-T feed one. Edision IP S2 also happily picked up the Bulgarian multistream.

I wonder if they're using different chips in the newest range of LGs that don't support S2X any more, or 12597 is just weaker than the other stuff and I wasn't quite aligned properly. The 25/36 FEC would be fractionally somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 in terms of required C/N I presume so shouldn't be too difficult in theory.

 

[LeBelge]

On Edision Mio 4K the DVB-S2X TF1 Suisse transponder on 33°E works here.
SNR 78% = 11.6 dB
AGC 88%
FEC -> Auto

 

[Channel Hopper]

Got a couple of new LG TVs in the house over the last few months, so out of interest I had a look over the weekend whether I could lock the DVB-S2X TF1 Suisse transponder on 33°E (finally live somewhere with an unobstructed view from the garden past about 19.2°E!)

Couldn't lock the transponder on either TV, the only stuff that I got was the standard DVB-S2 France 24 HEVC transponder and the mainly encrypted Polsat Polish DVB-T feed one. Edision IP S2 also happily picked up the Bulgarian multistream.

I wonder if they're using different chips in the newest range of LGs that don't support S2X any more, or 12597 is just weaker than the other stuff and I wasn't quite aligned properly. The 25/36 FEC would be fractionally somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 in terms of required C/N I presume so shouldn't be too difficult in theory.

You could whip the back off the set and take some pictures of the chipset numbers.

 

[Channel Hopper]

A quick search brings up this.

Pardon our interruption...

Tuner can has EBL61920303 written on it and is a dual DVBT2 and S2

My mobile phone does not recognise the Aztec code on the lid, apart from giving the number 2004B0613 at the base, plus 0016342

 

[solly]

any receiver suport hdr 10 plus ?

 

[Adam792]

Not managed to take a look at the chip in the LG TV, but I’ve been playing with the TV in satellite mode again, and the whatever the tuner is, it’s pretty good.

Once you turn off Freesat mode on these TVs, you get more menu options including manual tuning.

I scanned Astra 3 on a Zone 2 dish, and the LG easily manages to lock and tune in the very low symbol rate German/Austrian FM radio feeds (12639V 941 DVB-S DeutschlandFunk and 12643V 555 Austrian stations).

I had in my head that these were also on the Germany beam of Astra 3 (or whatever its equivalent is these days) rather than the European wide beam, so I was surprised to lock them so easily.

 

[ozumo]

Flysat reports the Austrian radio on 12642V as having a symbol rate of 280, impressive

I wonder if it will tune down to 10493H for the Es’hailsat promo promo and QO100 broadcasts on 25.8 east.

 

[Adam792]

I think the problem with the S2X on 33E is actually that I'm not able to lock the signal. I got an Octagon SF8008 recently which definitely is DVB-S2X compatible, and I can't lock TF1 Suisse on there either...

I guess the transponder is just weaker than the Eutelsat Cirrus one (France 24 English in H265 HD) and the Polish DTT one, which both come in with signals of 7-10dB C/N.

By my calculations, the 25/36 DVB-S2X FEC works out to being between 2/3 and 3/4 - so in 8PSK mode it would need around 7dB C/N to lock (2/3 = 6.6dB, 3/4 = 7.9dB ).

 

[Adam792]

Well I finally got this to lock today for the first time. Same dish (zone 2 minidish), so maybe the power has increased slightly.

8.5dB C/N on the SF8008 mini.

I can have a go with the LG TV again now I know I can actually receive the signal...