uk bbc channels normally on 28.2 on intelsat 907 27.5w ?

[Llew]

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If the titles etc needs tweaking pm me Llew.

It's not a Linux box AS, so needs to go in the 'ordinary' HD receiver section.

 

[timo_w2s]

Llew is reporting he is receiving the package but timo_w2s is reporting his F15 crashes.

Sorry, I should have written it a bit more clearly, my F15 only sometimes crashes. Other times it's very good. ;) (Using the latest patch - haven't tried any others)

 

[marjanen]

Hi timo. Where did you bought you f15?
could you pm me link please. I am from finland too.
how is the signal in Helsinki? How big dish do you usefor 27,5w?

 

[lanab]

Hi timo. Where did you bought you f15?
could you pm me link please. I am from finland too.
how is the signal in Helsinki? How big dish do you usefor 27,5w?

You can buy them at UK Ebay.

 

[Analoguesat]

It's not a Linux box AS, so needs to go in the 'ordinary' HD receiver section.

Oh drat

Thanks to whoever moved it.

 

[michalmichal]

For HD channels change vpids:

BBC HD: instead of 0x17d5 use 0x57d5
BBC One HD: 0x19c9 - 0x59c9
ITV1 HD: 0x1839 - 0x5839
Channel 4 HD: 0x189d -0x589d

I had similar case with TM-6900 and such substitution helped.

Robert

It works great but my problem is stv hd and s4chd. They both don't work.
my data in editor (clarke tech editor) are ;
stvhd Vpid 22885 0x5965 (on receiver 6501 ) Apid 14694(2) 0x3936 (on receiver 6502 ) PPid 8191
s4chd Vpid 22785 0x5901( on receiver 6401 ) Apid 14594(3) 0x3902 (on receiver 6402 ) PPid 8191

By the way, I scanned the transporder and there are some new channels ( the space, 301hd, 302, BBC Alba, BBCRedbutton, Fatsci) or I am wrong? We don't have pids and pmt for them.

 

[lanab]

It works great but my problem is stv hd and s4chd. They both don't work.
my data in editor (clarke tech editor) are ;
stvhd Vpid 22885 0x5965 (on receiver 6501 ) Apid 14694(2) 0x3936 (on receiver 6502 ) PPid 8191
s4chd Vpid 22785 0x5901( on receiver 6401 ) Apid 14594(3) 0x3902 (on receiver 6402 ) PPid 8191

By the way, I scanned the transporder and there are some new channels ( the space, 301hd, 302, BBC Alba, BBCRedbutton, Fatsci) or I am wrong? We don't have pids and pmt for them.

You don't need the pids or pmts as you can figure out the correct value yourself easily.

 

[iggy]

It works great but my problem is stv hd and s4chd. They both don't work.
my data in editor (clarke tech editor) are ;
stvhd Vpid 22885 0x5965 (on receiver 6501 ) Apid 14694(2) 0x3936 (on receiver 6502 ) PPid 8191
s4chd Vpid 22785 0x5901( on receiver 6401 ) Apid 14594(3) 0x3902 (on receiver 6402 ) PPid 8191

By the way, I scanned the transporder and there are some new channels ( the space, 301hd, 302, BBC Alba, BBCRedbutton, Fatsci) or I am wrong? We don't have pids and pmt for them.

I don't have mentioned above either and as far as I know none of my colleagues do.

 

[lanab]

Best forum for just Dr.HD is in Russia

=http://drhd.legion.name/

 

[timo_w2s]

Hi timo. Where did you bought you f15?
could you pm me link please. I am from finland too.
how is the signal in Helsinki? How big dish do you usefor 27,5w?

I don't think I can PM you as you are a new member but I bought my F15 from Ireland on eBay. In Helsinki 27.5W is OK on a 70cm dish although not sure if there's much room for rain fade. 90cm would be safer. It's also quite low on the horizon so you need a clear view to the west - an offset dish actually looks like it is pointing "down".

 

[lanab]

I don't think I can PM you as you are a new member but I bought my F15 from Ireland on eBay. In Helsinki 27.5W is OK on a 70cm dish although not sure if there's much room for rain fade. 90cm would be safer. It's also quite low on the horizon so you need a clear view to the west - an offset dish actually looks like it is pointing "down".

I get it here in Sweden nicely about 9dB SNR with a Fibo 55cm dish, this was the number 1 hotspot back in the 80's with premium channels for cable-tv networks in the UK, remember i had my 1.8m dish and received Premiere, Childrens Channel, Screen Sport, CNN etc...

 

[timo_w2s]

I get it here in Sweden nicely about 9dB SNR with a Fibo 55cm dish, this was the number 1 hotspot back in the 80's with premium channels for cable-tv networks in the UK, remember i had my 1.8m dish and received Premiere, Childrens Channel, Screen Sport, CNN etc...

I'm getting it at about 7.6-7.8dB with a no name 70cm in Helsinki with clear skies. If it goes below 6.6dB the picture is gone.

I too had a 1.8m in Helsinki back in the early 90s for BBC TV Europe, FilmNet, Wire TV, BFBS Radio and SuperGold...

Edit: Incidentally, this satellite has an elevation of only 8.9° at my location according to Dishpointer.com

 

[marcolan]

Wonder if these are being used as relay feeds for the various transmitters across the UK? Or for non-uk broadcasters who carry UK channels (Some DTV providers in mainland Europe carry BBC1 / other UK channels)

llew/anyone else in the UK - Could you comment on whether these feeds on 27.5w are ahead of BBC1 through Freeview? If they were feeds for the transmitters you would expect them to be about 3 seconds ahead of BBC freeview since the DVB-T broadcasts on freeview are buffered by this margin. A stopwatch should tell you the answer -would be interested to know.

 

[michalmichal]

So nobody has correct data (pids, pmt) for STVhd, S4chd that are working on receivers like technomete, drhd ? I have tried some and figuring out was unsuccessful.

 

[Llew]

llew/anyone else in the UK - Could you comment on whether these feeds on 27.5w are ahead of BBC1 through Freeview? If they were feeds for the transmitters you would expect them to be about 3 seconds ahead of BBC freeview since the DVB-T broadcasts on freeview are buffered by this margin. A stopwatch should tell you the answer -would be interested to know.

On my setup, BBC1 (Sandy Heath) is ~0.5 seconds behind the BBC Mux 27.5W transmission. Other channels have a similar lag.

Comparison made with DR.HD F15 and PCTV Nanostick T2.

With such a narrow margin, there may be errors due to processing timing differences in the two receivers.

 

[marcolan]

Thanks Llew- with the difference being only 0.5 seconds as you say, this could be accounted for by differences in demodulation/processing efficiency.

Did you by any chance also compare your TBS 6925 with freeview? And do you have a freeview TV rather than a DVB-T PC card to compare against?

I think if the MUX on 27.5w were being used to feed the freeview transmitters across the country the mux would be further ahead - at least 2-3 seconds - due to the buffering / error correction technology used in DVB-T these days usually adding 2-3 seconds lag on the transmission. I actually expected the 27.5w mux to be well ahead of DVB-T -unless the F15 is very slow at processing/demodulation?

 

[timo_w2s]

I was under the impression this was a backup feed for Freeview. The multiplex is called BBC-SATBACK.

 

[iggy]

I was under the impression this was a backup feed for Freeview. The multiplex is called BBC-SATBACK.

...and hopefully it will stay there for good ;) Are any of you able to open BBC ALBA by any chance? Transponder search finds this channel too.

 

[Llew]

Thanks Llew- with the difference being only 0.5 seconds as you say, this could be accounted for by differences in demodulation/processing efficiency.

Did you by any chance also compare your TBS 6925 with freeview? And do you have a freeview TV rather than a DVB-T PC card to compare against?

I think if the MUX on 27.5w were being used to feed the freeview transmitters across the country the mux would be further ahead - at least 2-3 seconds - due to the buffering / error correction technology used in DVB-T these days usually adding 2-3 seconds lag on the transmission. I actually expected the 27.5w mux to be well ahead of DVB-T -unless the F15 is very slow at processing/demodulation?

I'll try some further tests with the sources you mention. I wasn't wholly convinced with the test I did earlier.

 

[DragonSat]

Is there something special to do the the DrHD reciever to open up 27.5W BBC?

Just looked at the footprint, seems not much chance in Naples for this satellite anyway.