55E (Yamal 402)

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I've had a look at this one with a 1.2m CM and currently getting between 10db and 11db on 12654v.
 

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Any joy with the other Northern beam transponders? 12522v 27500 was the next strongest TP when I looked here.
 

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I was able to get the one with the radio stations - 12531h - got 26 channels between that one and 12522v.
 

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I'm now able to get all of the Northern transponders from this sat - most of them at around 7.9db but pixelated but can get TB41 and U+2 at 12db

Funny enough, the same transponder that's not strong enough (12694v) is the strongest one I can get on 40e.

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Unfortunately this is my most eastern sat - I was able to get 60e but the Ku channels were removed last year.
 

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What receiver are you using there? Does it do native T2-MI reception?
 

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Looking at the maps for this on the Northern beam I am just within the 3rd darkest orange area.
What size dish does this relate to?
And does a Mutant HD51 decode T2-MI?
 

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I'm in the same area, anything from a Zone 2 Sky dish for 12654V (Kuban has left, only radio now) up to a 1.5m for 12674V & 12694V. A 1.2M will get most of them.

Interestingly some further south in the supposedly weaker signal area can receive 12674V & 12694V on a 1.2M, you may have better luck than me.

11265V on the Russia beam is possible on a 1.2M :)
 

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Okay I will give this a try when I get some time.
Will the Mutant decode these channels, I have openpli image installed
 

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Looking at the maps for this on the Northern beam I am just within the 3rd darkest orange area.
What size dish does this relate to?
And does a Mutant HD51 decode T2-MI?

I'm using a Channel Master 120cm
 

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I'm using an Edision OS Mini 4K. I think it does
with an MIO4k Edision the t2mi work perfectly
So I think that with the mini4K it should also work.
with 8.8 dB the image is stable and perfect
 

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There have been a few changes to the frequencies in use on this satellite since I last checked it some time ago so I thought a re-sniff might be interesting.

I can "see" all three of the Russian beam frequencies easily enough with a Promax Ranger and can get one of them (11265V) to lock in a blind scan with an Octagon SF8008.
However, the Octagon fails to scan in the actual channel on 11265V, it seems I am just below the threshold for a lock according to the Promax?

All the Northern beam frequencies locked OK but they are all strong signals and would be expected to lock.

Russian Beam Frequencies
1. 10885 V @ 7.3dB ( lock = 7.9dB )
2. 11265 V @ 5.4dB ( lock = 5.5dB )
3. 11345 V @ 5.5dB ( lock = 7.9dB )

Location: Surrey, UK

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The situation is similar here, but 11265V can be reliably locked (6.0 dB typically) and channels are according Lyngsat.
I could never lock the other two yet.
 

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I managed to get the SF8008 to scan in the channels from 11265 V on the Russian beam but no pics from them yet.
If there is a marginal improvement in signal level at a different time of the day I might be able to get pictures from the three video channel, most are radio.

I am guessing that the SF8008 generated channel names are a consequence of the tuner not having enough signal level to correctly read the channel names?

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Success !
Well, scraping the barrel really, however, I managed to lock a pixelated picture from 11265 V on the Russian beam.

Location: Surrey, UK

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The signal level is improved today for 11265 V on the Russian beam.
It locks easily, captures the correct channel names in a scan and provides clear pictures, free from pixelation.

I think that is about all I am going to get from 54.9 East.
The other two Russian beam frequencies are still below a lock and the Southern beam is a lost cause.
All the Northern beam frequencies lock easily as would be expected due to their strong signal levels.

Location: Surrey, UK

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Nice work! No chance here.

ISTR that @Analoguesat locked 11265 frequency with relative ease in the past on his bent dishes. Sounds like the beam is stronger in the North than South.
 

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Nice work! No chance here.

ISTR that @Analoguesat locked 11265 frequency with relative ease in the past on his bent dishes. Sounds like the beam is stronger in the North than South.


Yes, I think Northern UK is favoured for the Russian satellites and Southern UK is favoured for MENA beams.
There have been a few changes to the lineup on 54.9E so any "Northern UK Scans" of the Russian beam frequencies might be informative?

I am probably at or close to the end of my Eastern arc and might be starting to get line of sight blockages from nearby bushes or roof ridges a little further away.
A laser sighting in the evening should give an idea of any blockages.
I did a quick check next door on 56.0E for the Wide beam and struggled to get anything, best signal was only a miserly 2.2db and that was using an SMW Ku-Band polariser.
 

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With a CM 1.2m in north east England I get similar results on 11265V to moonbase's post #335, occasional smooth video but mostly broken up. The other Russian beam TV transponders parameters are found but no lock.
 

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With a CM 1.2m in north east England I get similar results on 11265V to moonbase's post #335, occasional smooth video but mostly broken up. The other Russian beam TV transponders parameters are found but no lock.

Aye bonny lad, thee is almost 300 miles further North. However, a good result as you are still quite a way out of the beam.
I am now getting constant breakup of 11265V, Ooop North seems the place to be to slurp Vodka from this satellite.


Attached below is the final table from my recent scans of 54.9E.
Location: Surrey, UK.

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