Anybody Got Tbs Card To View Pls Channels On 13E?

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I recently updated to the latest version of Crazyscan - which now supports PLS (Physical Layer Scrambling).If I point my dish to 13E and tune to "11334/H SR:27500 FEC: 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK" Crazyscan finds the signal and works out the PLS 'Root' value is 8. I see a nice 8PSK pattern on the screen - so far so good!
Now the Crazyscan author says it is difficult to watch these channels because no DVB app can currently select PLS mode. However his suggestion is to tune in using Crazyscan, close Crazyscan and then launch your viewer app. I have seen snapshots of this and "TS Reader" was used. I have therefore downloaded TSReader Lite from the internet and after struggling to get it to work (trick was to download TSReader driver for my TBS 5925 as the generic DVB-S BDA driver doesn't seem to work) all I saw was the odd garbled green screen.
The TBS card seems to lock for a few seconds then lose lock (green light goes off) briefly - it carries on doing this forever. If I don't use Crazyscan to set root=8 and go straight into TSReader then I get no lock at all. So my question is has anybody managed to view the PLS streams on 13E (or 5W for that matter)?
 

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#827 onwards here -

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/topic/138910-tbs-6925-pci-card-with-hardware-blind-scan-in-dvb-s2-and-dvb-s/page__st__820

You don't need to close Crazyscan, just let it point to TSReader using IP 127.0.0.1 Port 6969.

For the 5W PLS channels, use Root 16416.
 

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11432V on 13E Root 8 Multi 2 -

11432V 13E.jpg

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Interesting stuff ..
Which version Crazyscan do I need to explore this ?
Can some kind soul provide a direct link ?
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Its been a while since I updated Crazyscan..
Found what I believe is the latest version at sourceforge ..
Downloaded it along with the neccessary extras rar ..and dumped the whole lot into a new directory labelled CrazyscanPLS
dropped in a copy of streamreader.dll
but can't get it to start..
Is there a more recent streamreader dll needed ? ..or perhaps other files missing
attached a couple of screengrabs of the error and the file contents.
any help appreciated.
rgds
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Crawling my way through this minefield ..
Just found a copy of StreamReaderEx-BDA 1.1.0.1036
so ..I was right ..a more recent streamreader dll was needed ..
Crazyscan now starts but pops up another error
'RFSCAN not supported'
I'm guessing this may be a driver issue..
Anyone know if I'm on the right track ..and if so..what driver version is needed?
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Grab the latest from TBS VS.

_http://www.tbsdtv.com/download/
 

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Ok ..progress being made of sorts..
Latest driver fixed the last problem ..thanks Remlap..
Clear 8psk constellation now after selecting root 8
Damned if I can get a lock ..ie SR resolved etc..
Is it a case of not broadcasting atm ..or do I need to do something else ?
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Actually it should work with your settings...
 

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Would it be a good idea to merge this thread with the TBS6925 one?
 

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Well ..I'm getting nowhere fast with this ..
Tried 2 dishes ..both fitted with black Ultras..
The TD110 and the the Gibby 1.2..
something about my TBS card maybe ?...or something I have not set..?
What is 'Multi 2' to which Llew refers ? in his reply.
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Dunno why you aren't showing any multistreams in the Input Stream box. There's two MIS's on that TP.
 

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Any similar multi PLS streams I can try for Llew ..perhaps on other sats ..
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Well ..I'm getting nowhere fast with this ..
Tried 2 dishes ..both fitted with black Ultras..
The TD110 and the the Gibby 1.2..
something about my TBS card maybe ?...or something I have not set..?
What is 'Multi 2' to which Llew refers ? in his reply.
rgds
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Although I'm showing Multi 1 in my constellation diagram, it's really checking Multi 2. I think it reverts to Multi 1 for some reason, even though TSReader is showing the channels on Multi 2.
 

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..as an afterthought ..
The Crazyscan Version I'm using is 1.0.1.56
Is this the same version you are using ?
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Try the streams on 5W VS -

11,012 GHz, pol. V, SR: 30000, FEC: 3/5 (DVB-S2/8PSK), PLS Mode: Root + 16416, MIS 2, 3, 11 (RAI)
- 11,179 GHz, pol. V, SR: 30000, FEC: 3/5 (DVB-S2/8PSK), PLS Mode: Root + 16416, MIS 4, 5, 12 (RAI)
- 11,637 GHz, pol. V, SR: 30000, FEC: 3/5 (DVB-S2/8PSK), PLS Mode: Root + 16416, MIS 1-6 (RAI)
- 11,675 GHz, pol. H, SR: 30000, FEC: 2/3 (DVB-S2/8PSK), PLS Mode: Root + 16416, MIS 7-16 (RAI)
 

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..as an afterthought ..
The Crazyscan Version I'm using is 1.0.1.56
Is this the same version you are using ?
rgds
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I'll check that out VS.
 

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I'm using 1.0.1.54. I would have thought later versions would work just as well.
 

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Would it be a good idea to merge this thread with the TBS6925 one?

It would probably get lost in there remlap :-wow

In any case, I pointed to that section earlier.
 

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Thanks Llew ..
Just tried all 4 on 5W with the TD110 ..
Non of them lock
So once again ..I'm confused as to why..
Maybe its the version of TBS card ..
wasn't yours an earlier version..?
rgds
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