Astra 1N tests - latest chat

[M60]

it seemeth it cometh and goeth ... ;-)

a few minutes after your post it was there (DVB-S 22000 5/6, as strong as before but no services transmitted) later gone, back again and atm gone or changed parameters.

That makes sense as I was on one room and couldn't get a lock on my Panny Freesat TV, then just before going to bed I tried the one in my bedroom and saw lock, thought I'd put the wrong freq in the one in the lounge!!!

The carrier is still there, but I can't get a constellation on it.

I'm getting lock on 10964H this morning, presume can you see a constellation on 11053H? These do both look the same in terms of quality and level here so guess they are both on the spotbeam.

 

[Dan Dan]

10.964 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S NO SIGNAL in TENERIFE
11.171 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S NO SIGNAL in TENERIFE

checked 10:00 Zulu

 

[dvdfilm]

the way Astra 1N is being used makes you wonder what's the point of this interim mission.Maybe they should just have waited for the new Astra 2 sats

 

[sattom]

The carrier is still there, but I can't get a constellation on it.

I guess its carrier time for that tp again?

(Are they really testing on a saturday or has someone installed an energy saver, that shuts down the tp every x minutes to standby? ) ;-)

 

[solly]

it look all low band c,d spot uk beam

 

[Analoguesat]

it look all low band c,d spot uk beam

Some of the tests over the last few days have definitely been on the widebeam as they were being picked up further east than others.

 

[andrewcrawford]

the way Astra 1N is being used makes you wonder what's the point of this interim mission.Maybe they should just have waited for the new Astra 2 sats

it about another year before astra 2f? or 2e? gets into orbit so 1n is interim mission to provide the addiotnal capicty that the operators of tv in uk are looking for

 

[welshman234]

I think we are getting far too optimistic in our expectations of 1N. Apart from the few, obvious candidates for moving to the new satellite, ie CH4Hd etc I dont think we will see many changes. The reality is that additional sevices from ITV and the BEEB will be in short supply as they are not exactly flush at the mo. Additionally why should the likes of SKY be in any hurry, when with for example many of the 700,000 Brits living in Spain provide a lot of income from Skys ability at the moment to transmit over widebeam, albeit encrypted. Moving to spotbeams on 1n for Sky would be like turkeys voting early for Christmas...they will wait for as long as possible before they use spotbeam

 

[M60]

I think we are getting far too optimistic in our expectations of 1N. Apart from the few, obvious candidates for moving to the new satellite, ie CH4Hd etc I dont think we will see many changes. The reality is that additional sevices from ITV and the BEEB will be in short supply as they are not exactly flush at the mo. Additionally why should the likes of SKY be in any hurry, when with for example many of the 700,000 Brits living in Spain provide a lot of income from Skys ability at the moment to transmit over widebeam, albeit encrypted. Moving to spotbeams on 1n for Sky would be like turkeys voting early for Christmas...they will wait for as long as possible before they use spotbeam

Once 2E, F and G are all in place SES can heavily market 28.2E to the Middle East and African markets so over time they'll require all UK based transponders to be on spotbeams to avoid interference I guess.

 

[welshman234]

Once 2E, F and G are all in place SES can heavily market 28.2E to the Middle East and African markets so over time they'll require all UK based transponders to be on spotbeams to avoid interference I guess.

Yes overtime but it isnt going to be for a good 3-4 years , who knows we may get SKY Europe by then buying rights for Germany UK and Italy .....and I for one would welcome that

 

[C0re]

Channel 5 did confirm that 5*, 5 USA and Channel 5 +1 will be available for Freesat before Christmas. The question is, will the existing frequencies on the Astra 2A move to the Astra 1N or will those channels move to a new frequency?

 

[sattom]

Yes overtime but it isnt going to be for a good 3-4 years , who knows we may get SKY Europe by then buying rights for Germany UK and Italy .....and I for one would welcome that

I very much doubt it since it is neither in the interest of "our" politicians nor the media conglomerats - both intent to divide rather than combine, each for their own reasons. Every step since analogue has build more frontiers rather than build media sans frontiere in europe. In the good ole analogue days it was very easy to receive tv and radio from the neighbour countries. Digital has made that virtually impossible - and the satellite is following in the terrestrics steps ...

Even more (or better: less): AFAIK in The Netherlands and Belgium where analogue has been shut down much earlier than in the UK it has so completely and one has to subscribe with canaal digitaal to get to watch any public broadcasters programs (its free of charge but you have to subscribe from and deal with canaal canibaal). It would be like you have to subscribe with sky to be able to receive BBC 1-4, ITV and C4. If you don't want to deal with them, bad luck, no public program for you. Brave new digital world ...

 

[solly]

all testing 11052h,10964h for moment look spot beam
or using low signal facilites uplink

 

[Analoguesat]

all testing 11052h,10964h for moment look spot beam
or using low signal facilites uplink

Both off air atm.

 

[Dan Dan]

sky will never move to spotbeam - why should they ,whats point they like the ´´sportbeam´´ they are on - loads of money

 

[sattom]

all testing 11052h,10964h for moment look spot beam
or using low signal facilites uplink

10964 back on, don't bother if its gone, it switches on and off every few minutes, but no services yet.
11053 is a bit weird with my box, even when its there my box has difficulties to lock on ...

 

[Dan Dan]

10964 back on, don't bother if its gone, it switches on and off every few minutes, but no services yet.
11053 is a bit weird with my box, even when its there my box has difficulties to lock on ...

where are you - europes very big

 

[Analoguesat]

His IP is in Belgium.

 

[Huevos]

10964 back on, don't bother if its gone, it switches on and off every few minutes, but no services yet.
11053 is a bit weird with my box, even when its there my box has difficulties to lock on ...

Yes, it is in a cycle. It runs about 10 seconds in QPSK and then switches to another format. Then after a few seconds it switches back again.

 

[Ratchet]

Thought I would bring all the 1N TP info into a single post, so here is the current state of play for Astra 1N as of 15:30 today.

10964 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Intermittent Signal Lock - No Services - European Widebeam
11053 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Intermittent Signal Lock - No Services - European Widebeam
11127 V 22000 2/3 8PSK DVB-S2 - Solid Signal Lock - Channel 4 HD - UK Spot Beam
11165 H 1000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Solid Signal Lock - No Services - European Widebeam
11171 H 22000 5/6 QPSK DVB-S - Currently Off Air - Various Sky Channels - European Widebeam