Astra 28e in Israel [Astra 2A moves]

[lovelyperson]

I see a strong data channel on 11186V on my 85cm dish at about 13.7dB according to the F15. I think this is still coming from 2C along with 11009V which is even stronger.

Yep thank you....as:-

 

[techtrader]

I see a strong data channel on 11186V on my 85cm dish at about 13.7dB according to the F15. I think this is still coming from 2C along with 11009V which is even stronger.

Thanks nothing here i will try in the afternoon tomorrow when poss the signal is better!!

 

[timo_w2s]

Thanks nothing here i will try in the afternoon tomorrow when poss the signal is better!!

Sorry, that won't help you. It is not compatible with Sky boxes and contains no useful data for us. You'll need to find a signal that is meant for the Sky box.

 

[geoffrey]

Sorry, that won't help you. It is not compatible with Sky boxes and contains no useful data for us. You'll need to find a signal that is meant for the Sky box.

Has anyone tried 11585H ?

 

[solly]

it come from eurobird but no lock signal

 

[4wd]

An anecdote, kingofsat lists former 2A channels as being on 2E + 2F + 2A simultaneously.

 

[Jamie A]

11108 V is very low for me here in the UK. Looking at TSReader, I can see it's a data signal full of MAC addresses.

 

[geoffrey]

it come from eurobird but no lock signal

Is that because its below threshold at your site - I wonder if it will be rather stronger in Cyprus ? Has anyone there tried to lock 11585H?

 

[geoffrey]

Is that because its below threshold at your site - I wonder if it will be rather stronger in Cyprus ? Has anyone there tried to lock 11585H?

Apparently 11585H is receivable in Cyprus ( http://www.cyprusliving.org/phpbb/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=57404&p=422298#p422298)

 

[techtrader]

Think i have tried it but i will try again...

 

[techtrader]

Yes got a signal On Demand is back again!! Fingers crossed cheers for the info people out there

 

[Analoguesat]

Yes got a signal On Demand is back again!! Fingers crossed cheers for the info people out there

Intermittent signals are very typical of ultra marginal reception - it will drop out again later on.

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

Why did the full switch from 2A to 2E take over a year? Wouldn't Sky want to use the higher powered 2E as soon as it became operational?

 

[Analoguesat]

Why did the full switch from 2A to 2E take over a year? Wouldn't Sky want to use the higher powered 2E as soon as it became operational?

That is one of the great mysteries of the hobby - and no point asking SES as they rarely give out technical information.

 

[ExIcom]

What will be the fate of Astra 2A

 

[timo_w2s]

What will be the fate of Astra 2A

Probably backup at 23.5E.

 

[timo_w2s]

I've taken some readings of signal quality levels in the north east of Finland this afternoon with an 85cm dish and the results are surprising considering the location is so far out of the official footprint. I can only assume the north is in a side lobe. The signal seems to be quite stable throughout the day as well, which is unusual in the fringes.



Transponders from 12109H (21) to 12480V (40) are working fine even while it was snowing quite heavily. Transponders 12032H (17), 12070H (19) and 12090V (20) lock but break up a lot most of the time. The rest of the 2E/2F Europe transponders are below lock.


Here's the results with the same type of dish (Triax TD88) in Helsinki (in grey) overlaid with the results from Ruka in the north.



You can see how the signal improves in the north (blue) as the frequency rises and decreases in the south (grey) of Finland.

 

[timo_w2s]

There is possibly one very small minor positive in losing the very strong north beam from Astra 2A for me, I seem to have gained a bit of signal in the lower band where a corresponding north beam was in the higher band.

eg. 11222H was always quite weak but since 2A was switched off it's gone up from 4-5dB to over 7dB. 11388H has also gone up by 3dB. It was discussed on the Finnish satellite forum that there could be interference between the bands from corresponding frequencies that are only seen when mixing very high and low signal levels together.

Freq - LNB LO = LNB IF
11222 - 9750 = 1472MHz
12070 - 10600 = 1470MHz (12070H was a strong north beam transponder)

11388 - 9750 = 1638MHz
12226 - 10600 = 1626MHz (12226H was a strong north beam transponder)

Coincidence?

Of course 28A will be switched off soon too, so I expect any "benefit" to be short lived.

 

[william-1]

It looks like Astra 2G has a larger European footprint than 2E & 2F so maybe you can restore your reception on some transponders in Finland.

 

[timo_w2s]

It looks like Astra 2G has a larger European footprint than 2E & 2F so maybe you can restore your reception on some transponders in Finland.View attachment 74292

I'm yet to be convinced 2G Europe will be used much (it at all) for UK TV channels. Would love to be wrong though.