Astra 2E at 28.2E: General Discussion Part 2

[DishDick]

Tururu,

So ITV and Ch4 have now moved to 2E?

 

[Tururu]

So it is.
Asi es.

"The switch, likely to include all of Channel 4, will add to the misery of thousands of UK expatriates in Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and Germany, soon after losing all BBC services last Thursday."

The news in full/La noticia al completo
http://skyinmadrid.com/pages/news.html


Greetings to the guys at the test.
Un saludo a los chicos de los test.

Madrid (spain) dish 98x90cm

 

[woborny]

Tururu,

So ITV and Ch4 have now moved to 2E?

Yep

 

[denis1501]

All ITV and FTA Channel 4's gone here. So yes, gone to 2E.

 

[buckshee]

Tururu,

So ITV and Ch4 have now moved to 2E?

Well if it has gone to 2E, it has made no difference to the reception here.

 

[Salva]

Well if it has gone to 2E, it has made no difference to the reception here.

Same here, they have now the typical 2E signal, around 1 to 2.5db less than 2F depending on time of day.

 

[BCW]

Here's the animated sequence from the South of France. All happened quickly.

 

[Lazarus]

Interesting!

I suppose the "Viking River Cruises" promos are sacrosanct and must on no account be truncated.

 

[zorbua]

So it is.
Asi es.

"The switch, likely to include all of Channel 4, will add to the misery of thousands of UK expatriates in Spain, Portugal, France, Italy and Germany, soon after losing all BBC services last Thursday."

The news in full/La noticia al completo
http://skyinmadrid.com/pages/news.html


Greetings to the guys at the test.e
Un saludo a los chicos de los test.

Madrid (spain) dish 98x90cm

What I see as ironic, and this is my personal opinion, is if they claim that these channels are for the domestic market why make use of Satellite beams when, as everybody knows, that Satellite transmission's purposes is to reach beyond ones shores......and precisely that's where expats expectations comes to the fore. If they want to keep such transmissions for the domestic market they can make use solely of terrestrial broadcasts, which of course they already do.

 

[Lazarus]

Not so. In the UK there are still many cold-spots for Terrestrial TV and indeed that was the original driving force for the Freesat Platform.

Even after a programme of Transmitter enhancement in the wake of turning off our Analogue services, there are still enough gaps to mean that Satellite is the only viable reception method (Areas without DTT tend to also lack Cable).

In the Republic of Ireland, which has similar problems, they have filled in the gaps with Ka Band transmissions (Saorsat) which has multiple highly focussed spot-beams.

 

[tothbros]

well, end of an era...no spot reception here whatsoever.
'advanced beam shaping' is a curse word, as far as i'm concerned

 

[solarboy]

I find it hilarious we can technically have a worldwide culture where we can all share but this is deliberately hobbled so that "rights holders" can release "content" slowly, region by region, format by format to maximise profit for their shareholders. TV will go the way of music if they carry on like this.

 

[Menorca Man]

I find it hilarious we can technically have a worldwide culture where we can all share but this is deliberately hobbled so that "rights holders" can release "content" slowly, region by region, format by format to maximise profit for their shareholders. TV will go the way of music if they carry on like this.

Yep, and for "music" also read films on DVD.

 

[timo_w2s]

And there are still those two data carriers 11464 11479 which are on 1N as well...

Still there this morning.... will they go before tomorrow??

 

[dxsat]

Someone has sent in a report saying very weak reception of BBC 2HD on a 3 metre in Gibraltar. BBC returned in Gran Canaria, no dish size given. See skyinmadrid.com for latest.

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

What I see as ironic, and this is my personal opinion, is if they claim that these channels are for the domestic market why make use of Satellite beams when, as everybody knows, that Satellite transmission's purposes is to reach beyond ones shores......and precisely that's where expats expectations comes to the fore. If they want to keep such transmissions for the domestic market they can make use solely of terrestrial broadcasts, which of course they already do.

Absurd on every level!

 

[BLUEPLATINUM]

Not so. In the UK there are still many cold-spots for Terrestrial TV and indeed that was the original driving force for the Freesat Platform.

Even after a programme of Transmitter enhancement in the wake of turning off our Analogue services, there are still enough gaps to mean that Satellite is the only viable reception method (Areas without DTT tend to also lack Cable).

In the Republic of Ireland, which has similar problems, they have filled in the gaps with Ka Band transmissions (Saorsat) which has multiple highly focussed spot-beams.

Well I always thought the massive investment in DTT was ridiculous. Everyone should have switched to satellite when analogue TV was being phased out.

 

[zorbua]

Not so. In the UK there are still many cold-spots for Terrestrial TV and indeed that was the original driving force for the Freesat Platform.

Even after a programme of Transmitter enhancement in the wake of turning off our Analogue services, there are still enough gaps to mean that Satellite is the only viable reception method (Areas without DTT tend to also lack Cable).

In the Republic of Ireland, which has similar problems, they have filled in the gaps with Ka Band transmissions (Saorsat) which has multiple highly focussed spot-beams.

''many cold-spots''. But why is that. Down here in Malta we can receive Italy's Terrestrial Rai Broadcast, Mediaset's and a lot more from small Italian stations although these stations are not intended for us and more than 100km's away. Surely it is a problem of putting more repeaters at strategic points! Anyway Tivu as I said my opinion only.

 

[FRINGE]

Dish alignment and LNB skew/reach was checked before and after LNB swap using a Satlink 6908 meter (not the best I know). Receiver is a Sky+ HD Amstrad DRX890.

Appologies for going slighly off topic here but I was thinking about investing in a Inverto Black Ultra to see if it had any advantage over my existing Invacom. Any thoughts - anyone?

 

[denis1501]

The Black Ultra is the best lnb I've ever had here in Italy and I've tried many, Invacom included. It has given me better signal on all channels but for some reason extra again on verticals. Don't ask me why!