Astra 2E: Testing at 43.5E

[Acuario]

today it start 12382h amd 12460h
I not check signal mid days
it new tp of old 2a
so now we know 2a,1n,2f will be move to 2e

Here is my guess on what will happen (for what it's worth):

There are 2 beams on Astra 2E. A UK spot beam and a pan-european beam. The UK spot beam is much tighter over the UK than any other existing beam from any of the Astra satellites. C5, 5USA etc. moved onto the UK spot beam on Astra 2F last december, in my área we then lost them on 1.2M dishes.

Astra 2E is theoretically identical to Astra 2F and will have the same footprints.

The BBC announced in december that they would be moving to Astra 2E:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogaboutthebbc/posts/Changes-to-BBC-Satellite-transp...

Astra 1N is due to be moved and so it's channels will be moved onto another satellite, almost definitely 2E, this is where all the BBC and ITV channels are.

So, those are the facts. The rest is speculation but makes sense.

The BBC and ITV have no reason to broadcast to Europe - they get no financial benefit as noone pays a TV licence and advertising is targeted at UK residents so they will move their services to the UK spot beam to attempt to restrict access to their programming from outside the UK.

SKY shouldn't broadcast to Europe but do. SKY receive financial benefit from subscribers so are well aware they would lose millions in revenue if they moved to the UK spot beam so any channels they move will almost certainly move to the pan-european beam.

 

[Huevos]

Here is my guess on what will happen (for what it's worth):

There are 2 beams on Astra 2E. A UK spot beam and a pan-european beam. The UK spot beam is much tighter over the UK than any other existing beam from any of the Astra satellites. C5, 5USA etc. moved onto the UK spot beam on Astra 2F last december, in my área we then lost them on 1.2M dishes.

Astra 2E is theoretically identical to Astra 2F and will have the same footprints.

The BBC announced in december that they would be moving to Astra 2E:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogaboutthebbc/posts/Changes-to-BBC-Satellite-transp...

Astra 1N is due to be moved and so it's channels will be moved onto another satellite, almost definitely 2E, this is where all the BBC and ITV channels are.

So, those are the facts. The rest is speculation but makes sense.

The BBC and ITV have no reason to broadcast to Europe - they get no financial benefit as noone pays a TV licence and advertising is targeted at UK residents so they will move their services to the UK spot beam to attempt to restrict access to their programming from outside the UK.

SKY shouldn't broadcast to Europe but do. SKY receive financial benefit from subscribers so are well aware they would lose millions in revenue if they moved to the UK spot beam so any channels they move will almost certainly move to the pan-european beam.

And what does any of this have to do with testing at 43.5E???

 

[nml]

Absolutely nothing.

Thanks Huevos. nml

 

[Br492]

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[Br492]

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[A nonymous]

And what does any of this have to do with testing at 43.5E???

Thats about as subtle as being hit by house brick Heuvos

 

[Steve Steve]

And what does any of this have to do with testing at 43.5E???

I thought it was a very good posting.....ok ..a bit off subject ....but informational all the same...nice one....

 

[Huevos]

Thats about as subtle as being hit by house brick Heuvos

It's a pity, but it looks like this thread is going the same way as the 2F testing thread did. And, yes, sorry if I'm not the most subtle person.

 

[Acuario]

And what does any of this have to do with testing at 43.5E???

I was replying to Sollys post referring to the moves from 2a and 1n (doesn't have much to do with testing either). Some readers may be interested in the posible reasoning behind particular moves.

But as you say it has nothing to do with testing but then what use is reporting on testing at 43.5? The satellite will be moved 15 degrees so, as stated in several postings, where there is signal now it will be gone when it moves and where there is none it will appear so all the reports here are effectively worthless.

 

[miha20]

Hello
There is a new test signal 12363V

 

[solly]

I was replying to Sollys post referring to the moves from 2a and 1n (doesn't have much to do with testing either). Some readers may be interested in the posible reasoning behind particular moves.

But as you say it has nothing to do with testing but then what use is reporting on testing at 43.5? The satellite will be moved 15 degrees so, as stated in several postings, where there is signal now it will be gone when it moves and where there is none it will appear so all the reports here are effectively worthless.

the signal it low then 1n for now range 2a
how it interesting to know freuqncy 2e on freuqncy range 2a

 

[timo_w2s]

the signal it low then 1n for now range 2a
how it interesting to know freuqncy 2e on freuqncy range 2a

Yes, the most interesting thing about these test reports are seeing the possible frequency ranges of Astra 2E.

 

[miha20]

weak signal on 11779

 

[solly]

10872v spot beam 0.5db

 

[Huevos]

what use is reporting on testing at 43.5? The satellite will be moved 15 degrees so, [...] all the reports here are effectively worthless.

Are you,
1) interested in satellite as a hobby with all it encompasses, including hardware performance, DX, etc,or
2) worried you might not be able to watch Coronation Street in a few weeks time.
If it is the latter then maybe, for you, the testing phase is "worthless". But if you think the testing phase is "worthless" why bother posting in the testing thread?

The truth is the testing allows us to learn a lot of stuff about the satellite that is completely undocumented for the public. It's kind of like reverse engineering. And it is stuff that we will never be able to find out once it is parked at 28E.

 

[Lazarus]

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It's ultimately for Staff to gauge what is acceptable and we should prefer it if Members don't challenge the validity of other Members' contributions.

If anyone has serious concerns, please contact Admin/Mods.

 

[miha20]

One more test signal

 

[pipino]

there ´s lots of ppl simply wont accept the fact that the Astra 2E will perform exatly the same way as 2F ,, i have a contact of mine around valencia area with a big stock of 2.40m dishes, keep telling ppl that they´ll need a 2.40 dish and may be more to receive the future signal from the new satellite ...

 

[FRINGE]

there ´s lots of ppl simply wont accept the fact that the Astra 2E will perform exatly the same way as 2F ,, i have a contact of mine around valencia area with a big stock of 2.40m dishes, keep telling ppl that they´ll need a 2.40 dish and may be more to receive the future signal from the new satellite ...

May be true, time will tell. Must say that I find this thread very interesting ... seeing data/info form others who are far more knowledgeable than me on the subject.

 

[miha20]

12343H is testing now