Astra 2G at 28.2E: General Discussion

[manosfk]

Hi ,
Here in HERACLION crete Greece no signal in new transporters !!! with Mabo 1,80 and vu+ solo2 inverto lnb. The 11720 H 29500 3/4 which is in Astra 2F have 13,5 db!!!
So in the edge of Astra 2G is cut sharp

 

[Tururu]

Well it is there for all to see in the DVB tables on 11778V. Look at the TSIDs.

Added/Añadido.
I do not see any change/No veo ningun cambio.

Then I look, all day outside.
In Madrid (Spain) levels as usual this morning.

Partners in the Balearic Islands in Palma de Mallorca, indicate better levels 100cm motorized antenna, "dramatic improvements" (11222h, 11224,11260,11261).
The new footprint is best for your area.
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Luego los miro, todo el dia fuera.
En Madrid (España), niveles como siempre esta mañana.

Compañeros en las islas Baleares, en Palma de Mallorca indican mejores niveles con antenas motorizada de 100cm, "mejoras espectaculares" (11222h,11224,11260,11261).
La nueva huella es mejor para su zona.

 

[timo_w2s]

For clarity I've compiled a change log of the movements so far since the beginning of the month here and will try to keep it updated:
Astra 2G startup & Eutelsat 28A close down transponder changes

 

[npire1]

Well it look's like I will lose the C5 channels on 10964 then. This was about the only transponder that I could receive on 2f so It's not the end of the world I guess ! Shame the C5's are not duplicated on 2e. Will have to watch neighbours and home and away online then.

 

[npire1]

I tried a few of these transponders and I am getting a strong signal so they must not be on the uk beam as indicated but on the europe one. http://en.kingofsat.net/sat-astra2g.php

 

[Fisty McB]

Might be worth mentioning that those of us who have their LNB skew fine tuned for E28A might find that reskewing the LNB for Astra might again improve the SNR on the services that have transferred to Astra 2E/F/G in this period, assuming that the new Astra craft are using their usual skew offset. It might make a difference to some in fringe areas who have lost services from E28A.

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[Huevos]

Just grabbed this from the DVB tables on 11778 V at 16:20 UTC, and still 11223H and 11263H show E28A TSIDs.

I know someone is going to say these tables are wrong but why would the TSIDs for 11225V and 11265V have been updated to Astra TSIDs and not 11223H and 11263H? Only reason I can think of is they are still on E28A.

10714 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2041
10729 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2042
10743 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2043
10758 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2044
10773 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2045
10788 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2046
10802 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2047
10817 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2048
10832 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2049
10847 V 23000 2/3 TSID: 2050
10861 H 23000 2/3 TSID: 2051
10876 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2052
10891 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2053
10906 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2054
10935 V 23000 2/3 TSID: 2056
10964 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2057
10993 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2036
11023 H 23000 2/3 TSID: 2061
11052 H 23000 3/4 TSID: 2063
11067 V 23000 2/3 TSID: 2064
11097 V 23000 2/3 TSID: 2066
11126 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2068
11223 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2311
11225 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2106
11263 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2301
11265 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2108
11307 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2314
11343 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2304
11344 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2313
11389 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2113
11390 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2316
11426 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2306
11584 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2407
11603 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2408
11662 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2411
11680 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2412
11719 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2001
11758 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2003
11778 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2004
11797 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2005
11817 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2006
11856 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2008
11875 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2009
11895 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2010
11914 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2011
11934 V 27500 5/6 TSID: 2012
11953 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2013
11992 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2015
12012 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2016
12031 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2017
12051 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2018
12070 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2019
12090 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2020
12109 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2021
12148 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2023
12168 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2024
12187 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2025
12207 V 27500 5/6 TSID: 2026
12226 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2027
12246 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2028
12265 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2029
12285 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2030
12304 H 27500 5/6 TSID: 2031
12324 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2032
12343 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2033
12363 V 29500 3/4 TSID: 2034
12382 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2035
12421 H 27500 2/3 TSID: 2037
12460 H 29500 3/4 TSID: 2039
12480 V 27500 2/3 TSID: 2040
12515 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2073
12520 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2074
12544 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2075
12551 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2076
12603 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2079
12610 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2080
12633 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2081
12640 V 22000 5/6 TSID: 2082
12662 H 22000 5/6 TSID: 2083
12669 V 23000 2/3 TSID: 2084

 

[Archive4]

Just had a long play with the bent Fam, did not like what I saw, so set up an old LH110 as well.
LH110 struggling on most uk txps now, not a chance of 10964 H ( Channel 5 etc ) reverse of what I am seeing on the big dish. Bent Fam performing better, but also struggling to get CH5 a few mins ago.
Did notice the focus seems to have changed somewhat. Until now on the 110´s LNB was pushed right back as far from the dish as possible, just now had to slide it halfway to the dish to get any signal on BBC´s etc.
Have to go for a meal now, so will play more tomorrow!

 

[Pietclock]

The sharp drop off in the south east of Europe might have something to do with Arabsat ... so SES can also use the near Arabsat frequencies without interfering...

 

[Tururu]

In the other post and saw the changes you mention.
https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums...-switchoff-looming.165381/page-12#post-931717

I did not see the tuner to compensate the frequency difference, to make a search looking at the data from the service provider, I conducted the search with the right /new frequencies.

In search of 17:00 (GMT) tp's only 11.000Mhz above, then perform another search, it seems they are making changes now.
Not take into account the tp 11052 which again do not tune.
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En el otro post ya vi los cambios que comentas.
https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums...-switchoff-looming.165381/page-12#post-931717

No los vi al compensar el sintonizador la diferencia de frecuencia, al realizar una busqueda mirando los datos del proveedor de servicios, ya realizo la busqueda con las frecuencias correctas/nuevas.

En la busqueda de las 17:00 (GMT) solo tp's por encima de 11.000Mhz, luego realizo otra busqueda, parece que estan realizando los cambios ahora.
No tener en cuenta el tp 11052 que de nuevo no lo sintonizo.

PS:

 

[Ratchet]

Results for 11200 - 11450 band on my 54cm dish. If this is 2G's pan euro beam on 11223H and 11263H then I'm not very impressed. There is little improvement of E28A performance and nowhere near the output of 2E/2F pan euro beams. The results for V transponders were much the saame.

 

[AHMET_YILDIRIM]

I am in Istanbul with 170 cm antenna.
I can get all of Europe beam on 2F and 2E easily but I LOST below TP s after movement

this is disappointing that if they moved to 2G Europe beam

11222 H = 92 %
11224 V = 99 %
11260 V = 99 %
11261 H = 95 %

 

[Analoguesat]

I am in Istanbul with 170 cm antenna.
I can get all of Europe beam on 2F and 2E easily but I LOST below TP s after movement

this is disappointing that if they moved to 2G Europe beam

11222 H = 92 %
11224 V = 99 %
11260 V = 99 %
11261 H = 95 %

Plenty more tp's going to go disappear for you in the near future in that case

 

[Analoguesat]

Im a bit surprised just how feeble the 2G European beam is compared to 2E & 2F Euros as well - one of the frequencies moved overnight has actually gone done half a dB here compared to 28A last night! The other three have only gone up ~0.5dB

 

[solly]

any know frequncy move to 2g europe beam ?

 

[Bengt]

I assume that the reception we see in Scotland is because the 2E and 2F Euro beams are centered on the UK, whereas the 2G Euro beam is centered on Germany.

I wonder why they didn't use the Spot beam, as they did with the 11307s and 11343s.

Here in Sweden the 2G Euro beam is the strongest by far, which is to be expected. Not quite as strong as the old 2A/2B North beam, though.

Regards.

 

[william-1]

New Astra satellites in tighter constellation @ 28.2 east within 0.5 to 0.18 of 28.2 east

ASTRA 2E

LOCAL TIME:
21:51:33
UTC:
20:51:33
LATITUDE:
-0.07
LONGITUDE:
28.38



ASTRA 2F

LOCAL TIME:
21:41:28
UTC:
20:41:28
LATITUDE:
-0.02
LONGITUDE:
28.18


ASTRA 2G

LOCAL TIME:
21:40:36
UTC:
20:40:36
LATITUDE:
-0.03
LONGITUDE:
28.05

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=40364

 

[cazhh]

28.05 ...
Do they want to kill the big dishes now ? Let's see if it moves back to 28.2.
The measurement was still a bit too early to be sure i think.

 

[william-1]

It is quiet possible that 28 east will become as tight as 19 east within 0.2 to 0.7 degrees of 19.2 east

ASTRA 1KR

LOCAL TIME:
22:01:07
UTC:
21:01:07
LATITUDE:
-0.03
LONGITUDE:
19.22


ASTRA 1L

LOCAL TIME:
21:59:25
UTC:
20:59:25
LATITUDE:
-0.05
LONGITUDE:
19.26

ASTRA 1M

LOCAL TIME:
21:58:43
UTC:
20:58:43
LATITUDE:
-0.02
LONGITUDE:
19.21


ASTRA 1N

LOCAL TIME:
22:02:07
UTC:
21:02:07
LATITUDE:
-0.06
LONGITUDE:
19.29

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37775

 

[hvdh]

Yes cazhh, at epoch (morning of 16 June) 28.2° and still moving West. No good clue yet. I rather see the COB info appear at SES !