Have you considered
digiscoping?
Thanks battenfan, I did not know it existed until your post, it looks a bit bulky for me
but thanks for the suggestion
, my problem lies with the cheap camera, spending around £300 should sort the problem out for the time being until I want better again,
When my summer house is finished I will be 15ft closer to my bird feeders that should help with this particular camera, I also need good macro for my metal detecting finds, and I would like to get more into macro pictures at some point, I love Rolfs picture, but unfortunately I think this camera would struggle if a bee/wasp was flying in, a few macros taken this morning.