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@deeptho, Thanks for fixing 22.0W for C-band :Y
 

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A first test service stream with neumoDVB(v.1.6)
 

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Llew

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@deeptho

Unable to start neumodvb with v.6.1

Syntax error due apparently to missing bracket in gui/neumodvb/util.py. Adding the bracket makes no difference.

Any idea what the problem might be?

Changes in util.py pre and post installing v.6.1 : -



TIA
 

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deeptho

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@deeptho

Unable to start neumodvb with v.6.1

Syntax error due apparently to missing bracket in gui/neumodvb/util.py. Adding the bracket makes no difference.

Any idea what the problem might be?

Changes in util.py pre and post installing v.6.1 : -


TIA
Llew, it is version 1.6, not 6.1
This line was added yesterday. It works for me.
As you do not provide any information for debugging (log files) it is difficult to comment, but I am guessing you
use some other (older?) python version (perhaps raspberri pi?).

I have pushed a small change on github which could make a difference. So please try that.
 

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Llew, it is version 1.6, not 6.1
This line was added yesterday. It works for me.
As you do not provide any information for debugging (log files) it is difficult to comment, but I am guessing you
use some other (older?) python version (perhaps raspberri pi?).

I have pushed a small change on github which could make a difference. So please try that.
Oops, meant 1.6, sorry.

I have the same problem on my PC using Fedora F39 and Ubuntu 23.1.

I notice satesco had no problem upgrading to v1.6. I'll see if I can find some debug logs.
 

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Panic over. A new build from scratch sorted at least Fedora. Ubuntu to do.
 

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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... The following examples assume that you first create and start a stream for 11013V-11 at 5.0W to port 9999, which contains a DAB substream. Then you can


  • Inspect the DAB channels: tsp -I ip 9999 | ts2na -p 1000 -s 0 | na2ni | ni2out --list
  • Listen to embedded DAB using dablin-gtk: tsp -I ip 9999 | ts2na -p 1000 -s 0 | na2ni | dablin_gtk ...
Test with neumoDVB v.1.6 on RAI Mux DAB streams at 5.0W, with the above command.
I used the tbs6909X card, activating the Italian mux, on 11013 V,35296,23,9PSK, ISI 11 at 5.0W.
Congratulations with thanks :-clap
 

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satesco

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Trying to run and listen to the German DAB stream on 12567 V,17015,3/4 at 7.0E following the command line "tsp -I ip 9999 | ts2na -p 1000 -s 0 | na2ni | dablin_gtk" only partly succeeded.
But to succeed completely I changed from "na2ni" to fedi2eti adding Pid, IP, and stream port, as shown in the screenshot.
Of course, something's not going well since I failed with @deepthou's command. What is it?
 

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I have just released neumodvb-1.6.1. This has a few small bug fixes.
You can upgrade in the usual way.

However, the main novelty is that for the first time, I have also provided
packages for Ubuntu23.10 and for fedora 39. I have added a new section
in the documentation explaining how to install them.

I have tested them that at least they start properly when installed in freshly installed distributions.

However, if you will not bother to read the installation instructions, installation can still
go wrong. Making this work was no easy task and took many hours.

The packages themselves can be downloaded here:
Release neumodvb-1.6.1 · deeptho/neumodvb

Do not forget to to install the drivers if needed (e.g., as a first time user). That is still
as complex as before. The good news is that it still seems to work on recent kernels.
 

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For those of you on other distributions than those supported by neumoDVB, there may be a way
to run neumoDVB as well. I tested this on ububtu22.04, but it should work on any version of any
linux distribution as long as you can installl podman and distrobox

You will need to install the DVB drivers on your exiting distribution first.
Then install podman (and perhaps also docker) and distrobox.
Code:
sudo apt install podman
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/89luca89/distrobox/main/install | sudo sh

Then you can use distrobox to install ubuntu-23.10, or even fedora in a container, without affecting your
existing installation (it will NOT upgrade your operating system).

Code:
distrobox-create --name ubuntu-23.10 --image ubuntu:23.10
distrobox-enter --name ubuntu-23.10
wget https://github.com/tsduck/tsduck/releases/download/v3.36-3528/tsduck_3.36-3528.ubuntu23_amd64.deb
sudo apt install ./tsduck_3.36-3528.ubuntu23_amd64.deb
sudo apt install ./neumodvb-1.6.1.deb
The first command creates the container
The second line will tak quite some time (several minutes), the first time you execute it: it will download ubuntu-23.10 into
the container.
Then we install tsduck and neumodvb. This too will take some time the first time (several minutes), because the installed ubuntu
is initially rather minimal.

Eventually you will see a prompt. Then just type neumodvb. neumodvb will start and will use
databases, recordings, and dvb devices from your current distribution. It will run without slowdowns.

It is also possible to create a command that hides the fact that neumodvb is running in a container. From
that point on, you will see no difference with what you would see if you really had upgraded.

The main downside is that this will require quite some diskspace. Otherwise, there are no differences.
 

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Great, I didn't think it was possible to lock the mux 12647 V,285,7/8 with the 6909X card, where we find the Antenne Dusseldolf radio program.
Only with the 6983 card could this low symbol rate be locked.
Here @deeptho made us dream again when we/I thought that this card has certain limits (under Windows) to process and play difficult parameters. :-clap

The DAB WDR stream on 12644 V,2200,3/4 can be decoded with the command: "tps -I ip 999 | fedi2eti 3000 228.10.1.5 10010 | dablin_gtk" with the 6909x card and the recent neumoDVB version.
 

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Great, I didn't think it was possible to lock the mux 12647 V,285,7/8 with the 6909X card, where we find the Antenne Dusseldolf radio program.
Only with the 6983 card could this low symbol rate be locked.

No problem for 6925 and even Octagon SF8008 swallows it somehow.

12647V.png 12647Vb.jpg 12647Vc.jpg 12647Vd.jpg
 

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Using the 6909x card for the DAB Metropolitain stream on 11461 H,5780,3/4 at 5.0W with the neumoDVB stream, does not yield any result.

Something is wrong, and I would like to know because with tune-s2 and dvbstream the 6909x card works fine for this DAB.

When you have time for testing, I would ask you to try this card on this DAB French.

Instead, the 6983 card can stream DAB Metropolitain and works fine but with the command highlighted in the screenshot.
 

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Using the 6909x card for the DAB Metropolitain stream on 11461 H,5780,3/4 at 5.0W with the neumoDVB stream, does not yield any result.

Something is wrong, and I would like to know because with tune-s2 and dvbstream the 6909x card works fine for this DAB.

When you have time for testing, I would ask you to try this card on this DAB French.

Instead, the 6983 card can stream DAB Metropolitain and works fine but with the command highlighted in the screenshot.
This just works here for the non-dab streams. That means any error is due to the external software being used.
 

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And dablin_gtk also works
tsp -I ip 9999 | fedi2eti 301 239.0.1.11 5001 | dablin_gtk
You need to stream the full mux as the pid is not referenced in a service

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Your last reply about the French DAB command line on 11461 H has reassured me that I was not wrong using it, for which I thank you
But I don't know if you succeeded stream DAB with the 6909x card, although indirectly you seem to have answered that you succeeded on this mux.
If so, then I will try again.
Kind regards.
 

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Your last reply about the French DAB command line on 11461 H has reassured me that I was not wrong using it, for which I thank you
But I don't know if you succeeded stream DAB with the 6909x card, although indirectly you seem to have answered that you succeeded on this mux.
If so, then I will try again.
Kind regards.
Yes. It simply works.
 

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
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@deeptho

DVB-T scan failing after version1.6. The bug was mentioned in v1.5, but no fix shown in v1.6 changes.

I don't think it's my problem, as w_scan finds all channels in all available muxes from my TX.

neumo log mentions a couple of errors, but goes on to scan and lock 474MHz if I'm reading it correctly.

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@deeptho

DVB-T scan failing after version1.6. The bug was mentioned in v1.5, but no fix shown in v1.6 changes.

Llew, what do you mean by "the bug was mentioned in v1.5"?

Can you try the latest master? It may be fixed but I cannot test dvb-t

 
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