Top Tip T2-MI reception on E2 STB with SDG image - A complete step by step guide

[evans]

Hello guys,
I have been long away from the forum
back and trying to make things work
I have a TBS 5580 multistandard TV tuner CI USB box. I have installed DVBviewer and transedit successfully.
I am trying to analyze the TS file to see if I could extract multistream parameters for scanning channels (T2-MI) on enigna2.
Any help will be appreciated; thanks.

 

[MCelliotG]

You are talking about reception on PC?
In this case there are a few programs that can scan T2-MI directly.

 

[evans]

You are talking about reception on PC?
In this case, there are a few programs that can scan T2-MI directly.

Ok mate, but I want to extract the parameters so I can use them on my enigma2 box

 

[EnoSat]

I am trying to analyze the TS file to see if I could extract multistream parameters for scanning channels (T2-MI) on enigna2.
Any help will be appreciated; thanks.

Try astra-sm or tsduck for analyze TS file

 

[evans]

Try astra-sm or tsduck for analyze TS file

Thanks, @EnoSat, for the fast reply
could you assist with any links as well? Nonetheless, I will start googling right away
cheers!

 

[EnoSat]

TSDuck Streams Repository

tsduck.io

 

[Satfaca]

Thanks for the link, EnoSat.
Have you ever taken a look into Colombia's RCN T2-MI stream on SES 6, 4.019 RH?
Can that be used in any way to see anything there?

 

[EnoSat]

5W/11013V - stream11 (maybe test for DAB ?)

 

[satesco]

A fellow forum member asked me in private how to extract a T2-MI file and what applications could do it.
Because I think the question is of general interest, I would publicly answer how to see such a stream directly and how to extract a t2-mi stream from a recorded file.
The only one I can mention now is that to view and extract a t2-mi stream, you need a dvb card, Crazyscan, TSReader, and 4T2 Content Analyser applications.
I hope the T2-MI video tutorial will be more helpful than if I explain in writing what to do with such streams.

 

[Satspot]

A fellow forum member asked me in private how to extract a T2-MI file and what applications could do it.
Because I think the question is of general interest, I would publicly answer how to see such a stream directly and how to extract a t2-mi stream from a recorded file.
The only one I can mention now is that to view and extract a t2-mi stream, you need a dvb card, Crazyscan, TSReader, and 4T2 Content Analyser applications.
I hope the T2-MI video tutorial will be more helpful than if I explain in writing what to do with such streams.

Thanks for the heads up. When discussions of a technical nature like this go PM the members here loose out in the long run. Valuable piece of information too.

 

[satesco]

Thanks for the heads up. When discussions of a technical nature like this go PM the members here loose out in the long run. Valuable piece of information too.

You are right, many, or some, private discussions are of general interest. At least, I often get questions about one technical problem or another, and I realize answers might interest other users. But of course, we cannot demand that others do the same. It's everyone's right to do what they want.

 

[Satspot]

You are right, many, or some, private discussions are of general interest. At least, I often get questions about one technical problem or another, and I realize answers might interest other users. But of course, we cannot demand that others do the same. It's everyone's right to do what they want.

Absolutely but it’s amazing what comes out of collaborative discussion. Different slant, different perspective on a particular subject. Nobody should ever feel embarrassed asking a question publicly no matter how trivial it may appear or feel they have to go PM to ask it. We’ve all been there at some stage. Of course there are those who go the PM route for one particular reason but that’s for another days discussion. Nice work though.

 

[evans]

A fellow forum member asked me in private how to extract a T2-MI file and what applications could do it.
Because I think the question is of general interest, I would publicly answer how to see such a stream directly and how to extract a t2-mi stream from a recorded file.
The only one I can mention now is that to view and extract a t2-mi stream, you need a dvb card, Crazyscan, TSReader, and 4T2 Content Analyser applications.
I hope the T2-MI video tutorial will be more helpful than if I explain in writing what to do with such streams.

Thumbs up, mate, this has been helpful.

 

[EnoSat]

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22543.1000]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. Všetky práva vyhradené.

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>T2MItoFILE

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>tsp --verbose -I file T2MI.ts -P t2mi -P analyze -o analyze.txt -O file extract.ts
* file: unknown initial input bitrate
* t2mi: using PID 0x0040 (64) to extract T2-MI stream
* t2mi: extracting PLP 0x66 (102)
* t2mi: extracted 139,794 TS packets from 5,463 T2-MI packets

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>

if problem detect PID from PMT insert manual

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>T2MItoFILEbadPMT

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>tsp --verbose -I file T2MI.ts -P t2mi --pid 0x1000 -P analyze -o analyze.txt -O file extract.t2mi.ts
* file: unknown initial input bitrate
* t2mi: extracting PLP 0x00 (0)
* t2mi: extracted 1,270,801 TS packets from 37,860 T2-MI packets

e:\TV\TSDuckBeta\bin>

source file

output file

===============================================================================
| TRANSPORT STREAM ANALYSIS REPORT |
|=============================================================================|
| Transport Stream Id: ....... 3071 (0x0BFF) | Services: .............. 1 |
| Bytes: ........................ 26,281,272 | PID's: Total: ......... 10 |
| TS packets: ...................... 139,794 | Clear: ......... 10 |
| With invalid sync: .................. 0 | Scrambled: ...... 0 |
| With transport error: ............... 0 | With PCR's: ..... 1 |
| Suspect and ignored: ................ 0 | Unreferenced: ... 0 |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Transport stream bitrate, based on ....... 188 bytes/pkt 204 bytes/pkt |
| User-specified: ................................... None None |
| Estimated based on PCR's: ................ 6,799,979 b/s 7,378,700 b/s |
| Selected reference bitrate: .............. 6,799,979 b/s 7,378,700 b/s |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Broadcast time: ................................... 30 sec (0 min 30 sec) |
| First TDT UTC time stamp: ........................... 2017/09/07 11:24:56 |
| Last TDT UTC time stamp: ............................ 2017/09/07 11:25:26 |
| First TOT local time stamp: ..................................... Unknown |
| Last TOT local time stamp: ...................................... Unknown |
| TOT country code: .............................................. Unknown |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Srv Id Service Name Access Bitrate |
| 0x17FD CANAL CAPITAL ................................ C 6,468,526 b/s |
| |
| Note 1: C=Clear, S=Scrambled |
| Note 2: Unless specified otherwise, bitrates are based on 188 bytes/pkt |
===============================================================================


===============================================================================
| SERVICES ANALYSIS REPORT |
|=============================================================================|
| Global PID's |
| TS packets: 6,814, PID's: 6 (clear: 6, scrambled: 0) |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| PID Usage Access Bitrate |
| Total Global PID's ................................. C 331,452 b/s |
| Subt. Global PSI/SI PID's (0x00-0x1F) .............. C 33,272 b/s |
| 0x0000 PAT .......................................... C 15,031 b/s |
| 0x0001 CAT .......................................... C 15,031 b/s |
| 0x0010 NIT .......................................... C 195 b/s |
| 0x0011 SDT/BAT ...................................... C 1,508 b/s |
| 0x0014 TDT/TOT ...................................... C 1,508 b/s |
| 0x1FFF Stuffing ..................................... C 298,181 b/s |
|=============================================================================|
| Service: 0x17FD (6141), TS: 0x0BFF (3071), Original Netw: 0x20AA (8362) |
| Service name: CANAL CAPITAL, provider: CANAL CAPITAL |
| Service type: 0x01 (Digital television service) |
| TS packets: 132,980, PID's: 4 (clear: 4, scrambled: 0) |
| PMT PID: 0x0BC2 (3010), PCR PID: 0x0BC3 (3011) |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| PID Usage Access Bitrate |
| Total Digital television service ................... C 6,468,526 b/s |
| 0x0BC2 PMT .......................................... C 15,031 b/s |
| 0x0BC3 AVC video (1920x1080, high profile, level 4.0 C 6,299,979 b/s |
| 0x0BC4 MPEG-1 Audio (Audio layer II, 128 kb/s, @48,0 C 137,902 b/s |
| 0x0BC7 Subtitles (spa, DVB subtitles, no aspect rati C 15,614 b/s |
| (C=Clear, S=Scrambled, +=Shared) |
===============================================================================

 

[evans]

This is very impressive @ EnoSat
well elaborated, thank you so much

 

[evans]

Hello Satesco,
I am giving your tutorial a shot
the channel I was trying to analyze may not be T2-MI, the input stream displays multi 171, 172, 173
not like single in your case.

then also am unable to analyze the TS file I created, my 4T2 content analyzer doesn't get synched, what could be the problem

could you kindly attach your executable files as well?

you have TSReader 2.8.55 and crazyscan 1.0.2.171( I have that)
I don't know about your version of the 4T2 content analyzer

Thanks for your fast reply as always

 

[EnoSat]

maybe some DATA channel, try send stream to TransEdit on UDP protocol

 

[evans]

Ok I will give it a try

 

[evans]

It is not data, I can the channels with my uclan 4K pro denys OS and octagon as well

 

[satesco]

Unfortunately, I cannot receive the Africa beam on Astra 2F to check the TV packages of the operator K-Net Ghana. According to FlySat reports, the parameters of this transponder (qpsk2 and fec 5/6) are accessible with any dvb application.
It seems something is wrong with this transponder listed on FlySat. Because the parameters on 12645 V, 32702, are in ACM mode, RollOff is 0.10 and are for Data transmissions. RollOff of 0.10 tells me it's also with S2X extension.
But first, I would try what EnoSat recommended, to try using the TransEdit app to see what this transponder contains.
I use sw 0.10.2.3 for 4T2 Content Analyser. But I should add that this is irrelevant, because there is no difference between the 4T2 versions. And, although it doesn't matter when you use recorded files, I notice you have an unlicensed version of 4T2 Content. To view live streams, you must have the licensed version, as exemplified in my T2-MI tutorial.
And there is something else. If the recorded file has errors, the application often freezes and has to be restarted.

added: Maybe it would be good to record these streams and post it on a host site to see what it contains.