Top Tip T2-MI reception on E2 STB with SDG image - A complete step by step guide

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A fellow forum member asked me in private how to extract a T2-MI file and what applications could do it.
Because I think the question is of general interest, I would publicly answer how to see such a stream directly and how to extract a t2-mi stream from a recorded file.
The only one I can mention now is that to view and extract a t2-mi stream, you need a dvb card, Crazyscan, TSReader, and 4T2 Content Analyser applications.
I hope the T2-MI video tutorial will be more helpful than if I explain in writing what to do with such streams.

Thanks to our good colleague, EnoSat, who posted my two tutorial videos on youtube (whom I thank on this occasion), I thought it would be better to view them on the forum with no additional operations.
I hope to be excused for the redundancy of my message.

 

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Hello
Unfortunately, I cannot receive the Africa beam on Astra 2F to check the TV packages of the operator K-Net Ghana. According to FlySat reports, the parameters of this transponder (qpsk2 and fec 5/6) are accessible with any dvb application.
It seems something is wrong with this transponder listed on FlySat. Because the parameters on 12645 V, 32702, are in ACM mode, RollOff is 0.10 and are for Data transmissions. RollOff of 0.10 tells me it's also with S2X extension.
But first, I would try what EnoSat recommended, to try using the TransEdit app to see what this transponder contains.
I use sw 0.10.2.3 for 4T2 Content Analyser. But I should add that this is irrelevant, because there is no difference between the 4T2 versions. And, although it doesn't matter when you use recorded files, I notice you have an unlicensed version of 4T2 Content. To view live streams, you must have the licensed version, as exemplified in my T2-MI tutorial.
And there is something else. If the recorded file has errors, the application often freezes and has to be restarted.

added: Maybe it would be good to record these streams and post it on a host site to see what it contains.
Thanks so much, bud, I really appreciate all your efforts, I have a recorded TS file for your scrutiny
anyone can also download and have a look
interestingly, after scanning with crazyScan and analyzing with transedit, I found something
12644t2mi.PNG

I will try and pay for the 0.10.2.3 for 4T2 Content Analyser and see how it goes.
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I have good news:12645 V is T2-MI and uses PLP 0 and can watch with 4T2 Content Analyser but also with TSReader!
 

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This is nice, hehe
the main focus is using the parameters to scan on enigma2 with openATV image
do you have the parameters?
 

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I see where the problem is with TSReader
under settings >> special TS modes, there is no option like QPSK-R Mode/T2-MI- Mode like you have in your video
so am unable to watch the stream with TSReader
I have 2.8.53a, but you have 2.8.56. Could that be the problem?
 

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@ evans
please check this, copy this line to satellites.xml by 28.2E
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<transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
 

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Although I have receivers with Enigma2, I don't use them much. That's why I don't know which image can process t2 stream. Even if I don't use receivers, if, say, the OpenATV image supports this type of stream, then besides parameters (12645 V, 327023/4, 16APSK), enter PID 64 and PLP 0. I don't know what OpenATV's menu is like for T2-MI. You need to see what and how.
It's no problem if you don't have this function, because you can't see the live stream. That's all. Instead, you can view the file with TSReader by choosing from source, i.e. File. To do this, click Ctrl and TSreader. It opens right under Sources and from there chooses File. And then, enter pid and plp as in the image below.
 

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@ evans
please check this, copy this line to satellites.xml by 28.2E
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<transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
Good to hear from you mate, much thanks.....will do that and give you feedback
 

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Although I have receivers with Enigma2, I don't use them much. That's why I don't know which image can process t2 stream. Even if I don't use receivers, if, say, the OpenATV image supports this type of stream, then besides parameters (12645 V, 327023/4, 16APSK), enter PID 64 and PLP 0. I don't know what OpenATV's menu is like for T2-MI. You need to see what and how.
It's no problem if you don't have this function, because you can't see the live stream. That's all. Instead, you can view the file with TSReader by choosing from source, i.e. File. To do this, click Ctrl and TSreader. It opens right under Sources and from there chooses File. And then, enter pid and plp as in the image below.
kudos to you satmate, let me try
 

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@ evans
please check this, copy this line to satellites.xml by 28.2E
Code:
<transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
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it worked mate, thanks so much
 

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Although I have receivers with Enigma2, I don't use them much. That's why I don't know which image can process t2 stream. Even if I don't use receivers, if, say, the OpenATV image supports this type of stream, then besides parameters (12645 V, 327023/4, 16APSK), enter PID 64 and PLP 0. I don't know what OpenATV's menu is like for T2-MI. You need to see what and how.
It's no problem if you don't have this function, because you can't see the live stream. That's all. Instead, you can view the file with TSReader by choosing from source, i.e. File. To do this, click Ctrl and TSreader. It opens right under Sources and from there chooses File. And then, enter pid and plp as in the image below.
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I do not see the place to enter pid and plp, seems my version doesn't support T2MI
 

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Why haven't you tried 4T2 Content Analyser? No license is required for recorded files, as I have shown in the tutorial.
But the most convenient for you is to use the AltDVB v2.4 player. It can scan T2-MI transponders with no problems.
I attach a video clip of this player at 54.0E, where there are some t2-mi transponders. Instead of pid 4069, you use pid 64 and plp 0 for 12645 V.

 

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Hello

Thanks so much, bud, I really appreciate all your efforts, I have a recorded TS file for your scrutiny
anyone can also download and have a look
interestingly, after scanning with crazyScan and analyzing with transedit, I found something
View attachment 141033

I will try and pay for the 0.10.2.3 for 4T2 Content Analyser and see how it goes.
Thanks
stored file different as stream
TID 0000 vs 03A2
lenght T2MI 4b vs 0b
DataRate 50Mbps vs 35Mbps

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Why haven't you tried 4T2 Content Analyser? No license is required for recorded files, as I have shown in the tutorial.
But the most convenient for you is to use the AltDVB v2.4 player. It can scan T2-MI transponders with no problems.
I attach a video clip of this player at 54.0E, where there are some t2-mi transponders. Instead of pid 4069, you use pid 64 and plp 0 for 12645 V.

Video is private...
 

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Hello Satesco,
I am giving your tutorial a shot
the channel I was trying to analyze may not be T2-MI, the input stream displays multi 171, 172, 173
not like single in your case.
View attachment 141022
try
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    <sat name="Astra2 AFRICA (28.2E)" flags="2" position="281">
        <transponder frequency="10975000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11015000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11095000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2"/>
        <transponder frequency="11595000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11635000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11635000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12525000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12578000" symbol_rate="3000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12606000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="171" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="172" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="173" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12726000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
    </sat>
 
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PS: 28E12645V.txt - analyze file in astra-sm , 0281.tplist - transponders file for AltDVB
 

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