uk bbc channels normally on 28.2 on intelsat 907 27.5w ?

[Pietclock]

hm so when do you start calling a beam a spot beam?

 

[artsmile]

Hi!

Can you confirm that hd chanels (11495v) are working now on Dreambox with mgcamd?

Thanks for your reply)

 

[Hixxy1]

Oh come on - it covers from Greenland in the west to Russia in the east, and from Iceland in the north to Morocco in the south - all at high power.

No matter what the beam is called by Intelsat that is NOT a spotbeam

Hi A/S. You seem to know quite a lot about the birds.

How long do you reckon 907 will remain in service for and also telstar 12?

 

[Captain Jack]

Not sure why I feel the need to try and receive BBC @ 27.5W as it's available on my terrestrial aerial but need to give it a go on the Dr HD F15!

 

[Llew]

It'll open those channels no problem CJ if you have the patched firmware version. Just scan them in and use the Red button to call up the BISS menu, then tap in the keys.

 

[BLUEPLATINUM]

as long as this is limited to some technical interested people, they wont care at all. I remember a text on the BBC reception page way back in 2003 when the BBC channels dropped the encryption on 28.2 east, saying something like people have always received our signals in fringe areas (probably refering to France etc) when they were asked about over-spill of then 2D.
It only always gets problematic when people start making money with it, ie indeed selling boxes etc. This is the point they usually feel the need to act.

I went to a hotel yesterday in Gran Canaria where they have a vending machine in the reception and are reselling access to Sky News, BBC1 (and several other FTA channels) in the hotel rooms. I don´t think the EU directive allows the reselling channels that are free in the first place?

 

[Pietclock]

I think it is legal to charge for redistribution costs. But you need the consent of the broadcaster. So it is done in the Netherlands or Belgium - the BBC channels are available on cable there and even via terrestrial - for a subscription fee. But those companies have contracts with the BBC. Also in Denmark German channels are on the terrestrial PayTV network. But they need to ask the broadcasters.
It is certainly illegal to decrypt an internal satellite backup feed and use it as a feed and then charge for it...

 

[Captain Jack]

I always wondered why I had BBC channels in hotels in Belgium and Holland. How do the copyrighters allow transmission outside the intended area? I know UK spot is easy in those countries anyway... but a legal agreement?

 

[Hixxy1]

I dont think so. That would be too expensive (licence cost for Nagra). They also would need to install new equipment. There are easier and cheaper ways, for example just changing the code...

You've got a point. Changing the code would be disruptive enough to teach the retailers/people charging money a lesson

Hi!

Good signal in UK
Thanks for your reply)

Just had a quick go. Working fine with mgcamd.
It's easier for me just to plug the aerial in the back of the telly

 

[Hixxy1]

I always wondered why I had BBC channels in hotels in Belgium and Holland. How do the copyrighters allow transmission outside the intended area? I know UK spot is easy in those countries anyway... but a legal agreement?

There are cable companies in either Belguim or Netherland (can't which one if not both) which are legally allowed to distribute the BBC channels.

 

[Captain Jack]

There are cable companies in either Belguim or Netherland (can't which one if not both) which are legally allowed to distribute the BBC channels.

I understand that - but why? Are copyrighters not objecting this? Do they get extra money for this?

 

[Hixxy1]

I understand that - but why? Are copyrighters not objecting this? Do they get extra money for this?

I have absolutely no idea tbh. My guess is they pay the beeb a licensing/copyright fee and it goes towards the worldwide and uk funds.

 

[smoggy07]

When I was in South Amsterdam last year we had BBC 1 and 2 on the hotel tv in our room


I wonder what the legalities are because I pay my license fee for those channels and don`t know how the beeb have gotten round selling those channels abroad

 

[timo_w2s]

I think it's accepted that there is always some overspill into neighbouring countries.

 

[kemestri]

hi, i noticed earlier in the thread a post from hixxy saying that these channels worked ok on the dreambox, and offering to post a working cw file.
just asking if he ever posted this file anyware and if not can anyone else do so.
thanks in advance

 

[Hixxy1]

hi, i noticed earlier in the thread a post from hixxy saying that these channels worked ok on the dreambox, and offering to post a working cw file.
just asking if he ever posted this file anyware and if not can anyone else do so.
thanks in advance

They work.

 

[kemestri]

good morning hixxy1, thanks for your reply. i have asked admin for permission.
however in the meantine would you be so kind as to email me.

this is my email.
[nomail]admin[/nomail]

 

[rolfw]

Have removed your email address (please read forum rules)

PM now enabled.

 

[kemestri]

thanks for that rolw. sorry about my mistake posting email address

 

[Analoguesat]

I have absolutely no idea tbh. My guess is they pay the beeb a licensing/copyright fee and it goes towards the worldwide and uk funds.

The Dutch cable companies do indeed pay the Beeb appropriate fees for carrying their content.