With neumoDVB (and Crazyscan) on satellites

satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
Eutelsat 12 West G @ 12.5° W

I scanned Eutelsat 12 West G with neumoDVB (and Crazyscan) using the 6909x card on the first visit to 12.5W.
Unlike the Windows app, neumoDVB also found and locked two muxes (11191 V,17143 and 11209 V,17142) that were not detected by Crazyscan.
 

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satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
I've encountered situations when, with 6909x/(6903x) cards, the frequencies in the upper band were copied from 10950-11200 HV both under Windows and Linux.
This time, it happened the same: at 60.0E, Crazyscan (Windows) and neumoDVB (Linux) found the same frequencies from the lower band to the upper band.
I wonder if this situation is a problem with the IBU lnb used, a bug in the applications/drivers used, or a card construction error.
Why does this error occur?
 

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satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
Express-103 @ 96.5° E

Even though these low positions on the arc can only be reached by those with an unobstructed opening and, of course, if they are interested, I think it is worth posting what I am getting at 96.5E in my area.
As usual, neumodVB finds more spikers even with a stid135(6909x) card than with Crazyscan, but the bottom line is that they both lock about the same number of muxes.
This is not an advantage for those looking for TV/radio programs, but they are targets for dxers and all satellites with only Data muxes.
 

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satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
Hispasat 30W-5 / Hispasat 30W-6 @ 30° W

Some kind of signal and muxes update to 30.0W with the tbs6909x after a year and a half(#35) since the last scan with neumoDVB and Crazyscan:
 

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satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
I don't know how those who installed the neumoDVB and driver for the 6903x/6909x cards work, but I wish that the speed of searching and locking the signal and muxes with neumoDVB would be optimized in such a way that it finds them on auto search.

Often after a scan like this, I am forced to manually scan some transponders that were not found and locked to auto. The cards mentioned at the beginning are known to scan slowly under Windows, so those who want to use this feature have found the neumoDVB app a great tool in many ways. Among others, the fastest scanning for a DVB card, even more so for the two with chipStid135.

I don't know what is the search algorithm set for these cards, but I have the impression that at the search speed, some transponders are missed in the scan. neumoDVB doesn't have a way to set the search steps for the user to choose, like we have Crazyscan under Windows.

On this occasion, I wish @deeptho, the creator of this unique and excellent application, a warm wish for the end of the year: "Happy New Year 2025!", and for the next year to succeed to realize the projects he has in the works, but above all, full health! :Y:-hagd
 

satesco

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My Satellite Setup
seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
Romania
Yamal 401 @ 90° E

Again at 90.0E after a year and a half since the last visit(#24), now with the 6909x card.
neumoDVB locked the two sub-band muxes faster,10844 H,36000,32/45,S2X/32APSK and 10924 H,36000,4/5,16APSK.

As can be seen from the spectra of both applications, neumoDVB retains everything in its path, even muxes unlock and noise, while Crazyscan retains only the frequencies it locks.

10800-11360 H and 11300-11700 H, with the 6909x card search and locked in 4 min 18s,
10800-11200 V and 11200-11700 V, with the 6909x card search and locked in 6 min 1s.
12500-12750 H and 12500-12750 V, in 1 min, 20s
 

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