Eutelsat Hot Bird 13F & 13G

[Europesat]

Flysat added carrier tps

https://www.flysat.com/en/satellite/hot-bird-13f

 

[solly]

let see this week more tp test

 

[Europesat]

We want 2 c the coverage map???

 

[Analoguesat]

We want 2 c the coverage map???

We already know what the coverage will be like. Similar to the existing footprints for some frequencies & a European super beam for others.

From what I can see the only folks getting worked up about the coverage are the guys on the fringes of the coverage zone who will be losing access to some frequencies....... Your IP address seems to put you in Yemen so I guess you will be one of the folk to lose access to a number of transponders.

 

[mianabid]

We already know what the coverage will be like. Similar to the existing footprints for some frequencies & a European super beam for others.

From what I can see the only folks getting worked up about the coverage are the guys on the fringes of the coverage zone who will be losing access to some frequencies....... Your IP address seems to put you in Yemen so I guess you will be one of the folk to lose access to a number of transponders.

lets see , i dont think so that there will be any change in coverage. if there would have been any changes , they would have shared the new maps.

Hotbird is their best earning position and middle east contribute lot of revenue so they cant take any risk of loosing business.

 

[wellikan]

HotBird 13F testing continues.

 

[mianabid]

HotBird 13F testing continues.

please explain something about these tests

signal quality etc

 

[Analoguesat]

lets see , i dont think so that there will be any change in coverage. if there would have been any changes , they would have shared the new maps.

Hotbird is their best earning position and middle east contribute lot of revenue so they cant take any risk of loosing business.

Why do you think there wont be any change? The footprints changed (widened) when the early series Hotbirds were taken out of service - they all had super beams targetting Europe. So effectively a new generation with a super beam is only going back to how things were 15 years or so back.

The transmission characteristics are designed for what the paying customes want - so if Sky Italia, TVN, Polsat etc ask for reduced beam coverage but at higher eirp over Europe so smaller dishes can be used by the end consumer then then reduced beam coverage & higher eirp is what will be provided to them in a new design.

If you look at the transmission characteristics of the Astra 2's they effectively have a wide beam with higher eirp super beam (the UK spotbeam). The transponders seem to be switchable between beams as several frequencies have changed from Europe to UK over the last couple of years.

And dont bet satellite tv will be around for ages - the writing is already on the wall for tv delivered over satellite in many areas as broadband speeds to the home increase. Reports here in the UK seem to suggest Sky UK are already looking at winding down satellite transmissions within the next 10 years or so in favour of delivery over IP.

 

[solly]

we dont know if new eutelsat 13f it it possible to change beam from wide to super beam antenna
but it hapen on old hotbird 13e from rai tp from super beam to wide beam technology it possible

 

[william-1]

Satbeams - World Of Satellites at your fingertips

Satbeams - Satellite footprints, news and charts

www.satbeams.com

80 Ku band transponders to deliver improved performances over the European and Middle-Eastern footprint, reinforced by a powerful European Superbeam

 

[Europesat]

Satbeams - World Of Satellites at your fingertips

Satbeams - Satellite footprints, news and charts

www.satbeams.com

80 Ku band transponders to deliver improved performances over the European and Middle-Eastern footprint, reinforced by a powerful European Superbeam

However, this article not mentioned in Eutelsat official website, it's only exist in satbeam website

 

[Analoguesat]

However, this article not mentioned in Eutelsat official website, it's only exist in satbeam website

Its mentioned in at least one of the official Eute publications - I remember seeing it. And thats where satbeams will have got their info from.

 

[Europesat]

Its mentioned in at least one of the official Eute publications - I remember seeing it. And thats where satbeams will have got their info from.

If you would please provide us with Eut. reference

 

[Analoguesat]

No idea now it was a good while back. If you are so desperate to see it you can trawl through the Eute news releases & annual reports.

 

[mianabid]

that's 5 years old information when Eutelsat ordered hotbird satellites and world has changed significantly since then.

99% chances are that there will be only one coverage beam for hotbird

 

[Europesat]

If they ordered 5 years back the same specifications will remain, time doesn't matter
The manufacturer will apply the same condition

 

[mianabid]

If they ordered 5 years back the same specifications will remain, time doesn't matter
The manufacturer will apply the same condition

Coverage isnt related to manufacturing , coverage map may be changed any time after launch/relocation of satellite

one single map may also cover super beam with high power signal while other other area with regular coverage

i am sure they not going to change their highest revenue generating satellite location

 

[Europesat]

Coverage isnt related to manufacturing , coverage map may be changed any time after launch/relocation of satellite

one single map may also cover super beam with high power signal while other other area with regular coverage

i am sure they not going to change their highest revenue generating satellite location

I think change is necessary sometimes.
Nowadays many tv package platform started to transfer to iptv which they found it very easy and less costly..

perhaps in 10 years most of platforms will use iptv service instead of satellite..

Access to iptv is popular and cheaper that's why satellite transmission will witness decrease in the future

 

[Analoguesat]

one single map may also cover super beam with high power signal while other other area with regular coverage

It doesnt work like that - given that the transmission power provided by a transponder is a fixed amount (which it has to be as satellites dont have an unlimited power availability & there could be 60 or more transponders active at any one time) to give higher eirp over a given area you have to reduce the coverage area. Hence there will be 2 beams. The current widebeam will be similar to the existing coverage & will likely have all the Arabic / Middle Eastern / religious claptrap channels. The higher power beam will likely have the European pay tv channels on it.

Look at the coverage maps for the old Hotbirds & you will see how it works.

 

[solly]

The covers for the new satellites will be available on the website soon.

Best regards
Eutelsat

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i ask eutelsat operator
it public soon after satellite arrive to 13 e
will at soon